millie150 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 wow best tut ever!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmcguinness Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 A couple of times in the past I tried to figure out how to do these with PDN - gave up in the end, but great to now see the methodology. Nice tutorial - I will definitely have some fun playing with this (BTW - Pyrochild's Random Shape Fill plugin is great for backgrounds): Thanks -CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Beam us up! Fabulous stereogram. How many tiled strips did you use? Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmcguinness Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Beam us up! Fabulous stereogram. How many tiled strips did you use? The image is 800x400, and I used 8 x 100px strips for the background. I then cut the 'image' into 10 x 80px pieces. I've always loved these 'Magic Eye' pictures - probably because I have no problem seeing them and so many others do, lol. I am currently working on one for my daughter, based on Twilight (go figure!). I am trying to work out if I can get multiple layers (i.e. one on top of another). My first effort was unsuccessful - I'm also trying to see if I can do a true 3D style one, you know, like a shaded 3D texture map image - any ideas? I suppose that kind of thing would require a sophisticated program, and do it 1 pixel strip at a time, each at different focal distances. Anyway, I am happy with my first results and will still use this method in the future. -CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 I'm also trying to see if I can do a true 3D style one, you know, like a shaded 3D texture map image - any ideas?I suppose that kind of thing would require a sophisticated program, and do it 1 pixel strip at a time, each at different focal distances. The problem is that we have to snap the elements to integer pixels when we really need to be able to subdivide them. E.G. Imagine a playing card tilted away from us so that the left hand side is further away from the viewer than the right. In a perfect world, every 1pixel vertical strip should be moved slightly more/less than the last to get a truly graduated effect from left to right. I'm sure that tiling vertical strips by integer amounts is always going to create a visual margin where you transition from one whole integer to the next. Make yours a VERY large canvas and you might get away with it - the transition might be sufficiently small to fool the eye when taking in the whole image. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csm725 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 AWH I can't see it. Quote My deviantART | Sig Battles | My Tutorials | csm725.com Click to enter or vote in the official Paint.NET competitions! COMPETITIONS: LOGO OF THE WEEK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 @cjmcguinness: I once made a set of tools to ease the stereogram manufacture process Stereogram Tools (beta). I didn't get around to releasing them as they didn't seem that popular (the plugins that is). You might find them useful. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmcguinness Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 @cjmcguinness: I once made a set of tools to ease the stereogram manufacture process Stereogram Tools (beta). I didn't get around to releasing them as they didn't seem that popular (the plugins that is). You might find them useful. The 'Backfill' effect is definitely useful, cuts down on a lot of tedious work. However, the 'Echo' effect would benefit from a greater scale of Vertical echo height - 512px seems a bit limited, especially if you want your stereogram to be 800x600. Also, I tend to try and make my backgrounds look as seamless as possible. I have been starting with something like a 100x600 strip and using the Random Shape Fill plugin to cover the area (repeated), then with the Panelling effect I shift it 50px so the seam is in the middle, then select a 60px wide strip, in the centre, and use the Random Shape Fill again to cover the seam (this time keeping all objects inside, so none cross the edge). This creates a nice 'tileable' texture. Your 'Echo' effect would be great if I could then paste this into a new layer and 'echo fill' across, however (again) it only works if the image is less than 512 in height. Maybe if I created a 300px height tileable texture I could then panel this in two rows, but I prefer full height strips. Good work on the 'Backfill' though, I will definitely be using that on any future efforts. Cheers -CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 Good point. I'll increase the Echo maximum to around 1000px. That should satisfy most users. I'll let you know when it's uploaded. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 Posted: http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?showtopic=14832 Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixey Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I recall looking at this a year ago but, alas, could not see anything. I've just looked at it again and ........ I now think I can see a Gargoyle Quote How I made Jennifer & Halle in Paint.net My Gallery | My Deviant Art "Rescuing one animal may not change the world, but for that animal their world is changed forever!" anon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 9, 2010 Author Share Posted October 9, 2010 Which image? Mine are text characters and cjmcguinness' is the starship enterprise - so I'm not sure which one you're looking at. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixey Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I cannot see text or a starship, just a gargoyle in yours Ego. My eyes may be compromised as I wear contacts (mono system). Perhaps the solution is for me to try to make one of these Stereograms myself! Quote How I made Jennifer & Halle in Paint.net My Gallery | My Deviant Art "Rescuing one animal may not change the world, but for that animal their world is changed forever!" anon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.d.melek Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Which image? Mine are text characters and cjmcguinness' is the starship enterprise - so I'm not sure which one you're looking at. wtf!.."starship enterprise"..geeze C.J....thought that was a strangely drawn bird.. (maybe I should pay a visit to my optician more often!!!) regards j.d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiNkgLittEr69 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) I see a dinosour Edited March 22, 2011 by Ego Eram Reputo Turned down the volume - please DON'T SHOUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ventor1 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Tutorial of the year - so far. :-) Only if one can see it David I've tried over & over again for a few months with different monitors and on different computers and I am none the wiser - which is a tad disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Try printing the image. The only other viewing technique I can offer is to hold the image up to your nose & slowly withdraw it while deliberately leaving your eyes unfocussed. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynojuggler Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Thanks for an awesome tut! I am experimenting with some variations on it but here is my first attempt... I am looking forward to seeing what else I can do with this. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Very nice image! Your color scheme is just like the Magic Eye images. The swirl must have taken ages to tile - did you use the backfilling plugin or do it manually? Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynojuggler Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) Very nice image! Your color scheme is just like the Magic Eye images.The swirl must have taken ages to tile - did you use the backfilling plugin or do it manually? Thank you! I used the Perlin texture and then Dents to get the background. The swirl did take a while to tile. I did it manually. I discovered your plug-ins after doing this image (that will teach me to do a tutorial before reading all of the pages following it ). Your plug-ins for this are great, BTW. They have come in very handy; thank you for taking the time to create them. Edited April 21, 2011 by dynojuggler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbieq25 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Very cool! Love the colours too. Quote Knowledge is no burden to carry. April Jones, 2012 Gallery My DA Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynojuggler Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Very cool! Love the colours too. Thank you! I have been trying to put multiple layers in one image and I am sure there is an easier way than what I am doing. If I just adjust the shift of the fore image without doing anything else I get this (it is just a circle in front of a rectangle; something simple to experiment with)... The backfilling of the front image cuts out portions of the back image and the back image distorts the front image. With some fiddling I can get to this... It is a little sloppy right now, but, the cutting out and distorting are pretty much remedied but it took three separate layers to get it. In a separate image I ran backfill on my front image and used the resulting image to make 2 different cut outs of my back image. Is there an easier way to get multiple layers in one of these images? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted April 22, 2011 Author Share Posted April 22, 2011 I've never figured exactly the right system for dealing with overlapping elements. I'm sure that the actual intersection between any two elements would have to be treated as a separate element again. If you figure it out, please let me know your technique! Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted April 22, 2011 Author Share Posted April 22, 2011 I've played with this for an hour or so. My assumptions above were completely wrong What you need to do is backfill only the parts of background elements that actually show past the foreground elements. Check out this demo image: This image has a rectangle in the background, and an ellipse in the foreground, overlapping the rectangle's left edge. The correct backfilling technique is to backfill the rectangle first - but without the piece that the ellipse hides. So you need to remove the ellipse shape from the rectangle THEN backfill it. After the partial rectangle is done, then do the ellipse (foreground element) as normal. I hope this muddled explanation helps. I'm keen to see what you come up with! Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbieq25 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I love to look at these things. Lovely colours! I really like the way they overlap. A great job from dynojuggler & EER. Quote Knowledge is no burden to carry. April Jones, 2012 Gallery My DA Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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