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mmh, as far as I know Windows 7 shouldn't be faster than XP, especially on an old computer.
Wrong. Oh, so wrong.
perhaps it simply loads parts of firefox while the computer boots, like it does with IE?

Vista and 7 both have vastly improved prefetching than XP did, but that can't affect a cold-start-to-usability time unless you're using ReadyBoost, which I'm not.

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bah, i still don't believe in Seven, not until it's totally and irrefutably (spelling, I know...) proven it's worthy.

mind you, I don't really believe in microsoft at all, I simply wish games supported more platforms.. and so did Paint.NET, curse this extension! :P

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XP actually appears to start faster; it gets to the desktop quicker. But between the time I click on the Firefox icon and the time it shows up, I can make ramen.

Clearly, Windows 7 will make my ramen supply last much longer. A good thing, too, since I'll be heading off to college soon.

Dude... stop making ramen. Trust me, there's a much better alternative.

I used to eat instant noodles the way the package used to tell me for years, and it was nice and yummy.

But then one day I discovered a taste a heaven. Fried noodles.

I bought a whole bunch of fried noodle kits from Lidl when they appeared and it was just delicious.... but they were rarily on sale and bit costly.

So I tried using instant ramen to make it... and it worked just fine.

So, instead of making ramen, take those instant noodles, take a frying pan, put a small amount of water on it, just to cover the pan (after few tries, one finds the proper amount of water), throw those noodles on threre, turn them after a while, use a spatula to separate and flatten them when they get little softer, throw the spices that came with the noodles there and mix, then just wait for the water to evaporate, the noodles to get golden (at some point it's good to either put some oil on or use the spatula's edge to chop the ball of noodles to small bits so you don't have a big clump instead) and savor the sweet flavor that is instant fried noodles. :o

P.S. Windows 7 Beta rocked. As soon as Virtualbox works, I can confirm that RC rocks as well.

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XP actually appears to start faster; it gets to the desktop quicker. But between the time I click on the Firefox icon and the time it shows up, I can make ramen.

Clearly, Windows 7 will make my ramen supply last much longer. A good thing, too, since I'll be heading off to college soon.

Dude... stop making ramen. Trust me, there's a much better alternative.

I used to eat instant noodles the way the package used to tell me for years, and it was nice and yummy.

But then one day I discovered a taste a heaven. Fried noodles.

I bought a whole bunch of fried noodle kits from Lidl when they appeared and it was just delicious.... but they were rarily on sale and bit costly.

So I tried using instant ramen to make it... and it worked just fine.

So, instead of making ramen, take those instant noodles, take a frying pan, put a small amount of water on it, just to cover the pan (after few tries, one finds the proper amount of water), throw those noodles on threre, turn them after a while, use a spatula to separate and flatten them when they get little softer, throw the spices that came with the noodles there and mix, then just wait for the water to evaporate, the noodles to get golden (at some point it's good to either put some oil on or use the spatula's edge to chop the ball of noodles to small bits so you don't have a big clump instead) and savor the sweet flavor that is instant fried noodles. :o

P.S. Windows 7 Beta rocked. As soon as Virtualbox works, I can confirm that RC rocks as well.

RC1 looks good, on my friend's laptop, too bad i cant be bothered downloading 2.4 gigs :P

as for the ramen battle, both instant noodles and fried noodles win.

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Um, I hate to burst your bubble, but if you're throwing noodles in water to cook them, you're just boiling them in a skillet.

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I installed the RC on my main computer at home. You know ... that computer I use to develop Paint.NET ... :) The Core i7 at 3.6ghz with 12GB of RAM, a GeForce GTX 260, and enough hard drive space to test the boundaries of quantum physics.

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That sounds somewhat like my machine (ok, not exactly, but close enough for this comparison) - how does weven perform on it, compared to XP x64?

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That sounds somewhat like my machine (ok, not exactly, but close enough for this comparison) - how does weven perform on it, compared to XP x64?

Heck if I know. I haven't run XP x64 since Vista was released.

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No. You can't even upgrade. Nor should you, this is windows, you should always make a backup and then do a fresh install (then apply backup). Gives a lot less trouble.

But have a look at this.

According to Microsoft, the features for all editions of Windows 7 will be stored on the machine, regardless of what edition is in use.
(source: wiki)

This might sound like a good thing at first.. until you realize that most people won't upgrade anyway (why? money.) so those features will just be sitting there, wasting space. Space being cheap is no excuse, much like fast processors are no excuse for sloppy programming (and you don't waste water just because it's cheap either, do you?)

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I heard in the rumor mill that this free version of seven will only load on top of vista. Can it be loaded directly onto an XP os?
It's not a "free version," it's a Release Candidate. It will cease to work soon after the RTM is sent to presses and system builders like Dell.

Only Vista will upgrade directly to 7. You can't upgrade from XP or Windows 7 Beta to Windows 7 RC. You have to do a clean install, or install Vista then 7 (which would be a silly thing to do).

No. You can't even upgrade. Nor should you, this is windows, you should always make a backup and then do a fresh install (then apply backup). Gives a lot less trouble.

Truth. Even if I could upgrade this XP machine to 7, I wouldn't. A clean install will result in a faster, more stable environment from the start.

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I just clean installed Windows 7 RC on my desktop PC. Works like a charm. :D

I wish i could install it on my laptop, but i only have 512MB RAM.. :(

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thanks simon. I installed it on my laptop, but i gotta use basic. Aero doesn't work on it, but it still works great. :)

I even managed to find a cool matching wallpaper for the basic taskbar in Windows 7.

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Yay, so I'm loving RC1, but I had a hell of a hard time setting thatthing up...

  • [*:sbh35t27]Downloaded RC1.
    [*:sbh35t27]Extracted the files with WinRAR.
    [*:sbh35t27]Formatted an 8gig USB drive in NTFS.
    [*:sbh35t27]Copied extracted ISO files onto the USB.
    [*:sbh35t27]Booted from the USB; installed the RC on a new HDD.
    [*:sbh35t27]Lost product key.
    [*:sbh35t27]Repeat from beginning with a new RC1 ISO.
    [*:sbh35t27]Installed with the product key.
    [*:sbh35t27]Messed around with the included themes; unlocked the regional themes.
    [*:sbh35t27]I apparently could not download ANYTHING with Internet Explorer.
    [*:sbh35t27]Ran Firefox from the other hard drive.
    [*:sbh35t27]Could not set firefox as my default browser; but I could download through it.
    [*:sbh35t27]Downloaded a new copy of firefox.
    [*:sbh35t27]Could not install firefox. "INSTALLER ERROR"
    [*:sbh35t27]Turned off UAC, was able to make firefox the default browser.
    [*:sbh35t27] *waits for more to happen*
    I'm just bad at this.... -.-

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You should have been able to log back into the Windows 7 stie and get your key back. I recall being able to do that with the beta.

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Ugh UAC.. Luckily the only downside to turning it off is that you have to be careful, but hey, you have to be careful anyway. So there is no downside. Unless you like using keygens or you watch those video's for which you have to install a "codec" (trojan!) - but then it's your own fault anyway!

I actually like this W7 UAC mode that is not yet off, but "less annoying". It's not too bad. Could do with some work though..

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I read that the Win7 UAC could not be turned off, only made less intrusive. This way security is maintained because people won`t get fed up and want to turn it off like in Vista.

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Well the UAC control thing looks like you can turn it off. It acts turned off when you do that, but I'm not sure whether it is really actually off. After all it was made by microsoft, having the setting do something other than its name implies would be very much like them. (remember windows update settings? "let me choose" actually means "nag me until I give in")

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