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I just installed the new version, which worked fine, yet immediately ran into an issue when editing a photo. Whenever I want to add a white frame to a photo, I go to "canvas resize" and add the additional width, that is, the photo frame. Now however this will not work anymore and instead of a white frame I get a checkerboard border. I did look at the settings and read the section about the new "canvas customisation feature" - however I couldn't find anything about how to get back the plain ordinary white frame I would like to apply. Please advise.

 

Bernd

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1 hour ago, BerndH said:

I just installed the new version, which worked fine, yet immediately ran into an issue when editing a photo. Whenever I want to add a white frame to a photo, I go to "canvas resize" and add the additional width, that is, the photo frame. Now however this will not work anymore and instead of a white frame I get a checkerboard border. I did look at the settings and read the section about the new "canvas customisation feature" - however I couldn't find anything about how to get back the plain ordinary white frame I would like to apply. Please advise.

 

Bernd

 

This is a change in behavior. See above,

 

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Changed: Image->Canvas Size will no longer use the secondary color to fill in new areas for the "background" layer. It will always fill with transparent black (#00000000).

 

The checkerboard is transparency, it is not actually part of the image.

 

You can create a new layer, move it to the bottom, fill it with white (or whatever). Then, click on the layer above it and then do Layers -> Merge Down.

 

The old behavior was convenient in some cases, but was not really consistent in a way that made sense in the broader scheme of things. It was also a very old design decision from 2004 that just wasn't the right decision anymore in 2024.

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Thanks for the quick reply! - As I don't work with layers at all (I do not need them for photo editing), I don't think I will try the new method as it seems to involve multiple steps, while the old approach was simple and convient. I understand that this change makes sense for some users - yet not for me. Can I roll back paint.net to the previous version? Otherwise I'll have to start using a different software.

 

Cheers

Bernd

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The program is broken after updating to this version.  The screen won't paint fully, and I have to kill it using Task Manager.  I tried uninstalling and re-installing, but the result is the same...

 

 

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2 minutes ago, BerndH said:

Thanks for the quick reply! - As I don't work with layers at all (I do not need them for photo editing), I don't think I will try the new method as it seems to involve multiple steps, while the old approach was simple and convient. I understand that this change makes sense for some users - yet not for me. Can I roll back paint.net to the previous version? Otherwise I'll have to start using a different software.

 

Cheers

Bernd

 

I really can't recommend that, and we do not support using anything but the latest version. It's very important to make sure things are ironed out in the latest/newest version so that everyone can benefit from the latest fixes and tweaks. (And so that we don't get bogged down with support requests for older versions, it's just not sustainable.)

 

You could also use this method:

 

1. Do the Canvas Resize like you always do

2. Switch to the Paint Bucket tool

3. Change the Tolerance in the toolbar to 0

4. Select the color you want in the Colors window

5. Click once in the newly transparent area

 

There is also the possibility that I may add a selector in Canvas Size to choose whether you want to fill the new area with Transparent, or the Primary/Secondary color. So if that happens, you won't see that if you stick to the old version -- and you won't benefit from all the newer improvements, fixes, and optimizations.

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Thank you very much again for all the information! - I read the section about the new "cavas resize" features and (sort of) understand the reasoning behind the change ... and I'm sure it is good for many - only, unfortunately, it doesn't work for me and the way I use paint.net (and I won't start using multiple steps to achieve a similar result as before, especially as I like to be able to increase / decrease the size of the frames quickly to try out what works best.) So a "canvas size plus colour selector" would be really useful for me.

Meanwhile, I've tried a few things, and what I'll start doing for the time being is to continue with my usual photo editing using paint.net - because I really, really like the convienence of paint.net. And whenever I decide I'd like a white frame around a photo, I'll use MS paint or IrfanView to add it, as both programmes offer a simple one-step way of doing this.

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Bernd

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@vajoja it's a false positive. This can happen on Windows 10 if it hasn't updated its antivirus definitions yet. This happens a lot with new releases, it takes a few days for some antivirus software to "learn" that new software isn't "bad". What you're seeing isn't a detection of a specific virus, it's just seeing that the installer does things like copying EXEs and DLLs, modifying the registry, etc. As it turns out, malware likes to do that stuff too.

 

This doesn't happen on Windows 11 because it's been updated to recognize the signing certificate that I use, which is from Microsoft.

 

Do be sure you've got all the latest Windows Update.

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1 minute ago, Rick Brewster said:

his happens a lot with new releases, it takes a few days for some antivirus software to "learn" that new software isn't "bad". What you're seeing isn't a detection of a specific virus, it's just seeing that the installer does things like copying EXEs and DLLs, modifying the registry, etc. As it turns out, malware likes to do that stuff too.

I have to mention as a funny side note, I wrote a small console C# app to help with my plugin updates, and it was detected as that exact same trojan reported above and immediately quarantined (and then again detected as a different trojan in the recycle bin after I had deleted it). It only loaded an array and computed a change on the values and dumped it to the console, compiled C# really seems to trigger that detection with very little code.

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1 hour ago, BerndH said:

Meanwhile, I've tried a few things, and what I'll start doing for the time being is to continue with my usual photo editing using paint.net - because I really, really like the convienence of paint.net. And whenever I decide I'd like a white frame around a photo, I'll use MS paint or IrfanView to add it, as both programmes offer a simple one-step way of doing this.

Okay great :) Just keep checking back in PDN's Image->Canvas Size after each update to see if I've added that color selector thing. (It'll also be in the release notes of course)

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2 hours ago, Rick Brewster said:

@vajoja it's a false positive. This can happen on Windows 10 if it hasn't updated its antivirus definitions yet. This happens a lot with new releases, it takes a few days for some antivirus software to "learn" that new software isn't "bad". What you're seeing isn't a detection of a specific virus, it's just seeing that the installer does things like copying EXEs and DLLs, modifying the registry, etc. As it turns out, malware likes to do that stuff too.

 

This doesn't happen on Windows 11 because it's been updated to recognize the signing certificate that I use, which is from Microsoft.

 

Do be sure you've got all the latest Windows Update.

 

Thank you for the info. I assumed this was the case, though will mention that I am on Windows 11 (24H2) and it has still flagged it as a false-positive.

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3 hours ago, BerndH said:

it doesn't work for me and the way I use paint.net (and I won't start using multiple steps to achieve a similar result as before)

 

You have a single background layer and you want the expanded region to be filled with the Secondary colour. The steps to do this are:

  1. Press F to activate the Paint Bucket tool.

  2. Right-click anywhere on the transparent expanded region to fill it with the Secondary colour.

  3. If necessary, set the Tolerance to 0% to ensure that only the transparent region is filled. Generally this step won't be necessary.

  4. Press Return to Finish the Paint Bucket fill.

So it's just 3 simple steps:  F  right-click  Return   to turn the transparent area into the Secondary color.

 

 

 

 

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Hi guys

 

I tried updating to 5.1 from the Non Microsoft store version of Paint.net and the program fails to completely boot, it would sit in an endless loop for over 5 mins using around 9% of CPU, (no I don't have a garbage CPU....) which worried me, so I un-installed it, the restarted the PC to complete the process.

 

I then downloaded the latest version from your website (also 5.1 non-Microsoft version) and tried re-installing it, then rebooting to be sure, now it won't boot at all now.  I have re-tried this step twice.

Each time I try to boot the program I get a Pop-up error window saying

 

|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| SetupDownloader.exe - Application Error                                                           |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| The application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b). Click OK            |
| to close the application.                                                                                        |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

 

Hope this helps. I look forward to using Paint.net again, it is an awesome product, well done team for making it.

 

And I won't be downloading it from the Microsoft store, bugger them.

 

Regards Cam

 

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2 hours ago, vajoja said:

 

Thank you for the info. I assumed this was the case, though will mention that I am on Windows 11 (24H2) and it has still flagged it as a false-positive.

I am also on win11, and windows defender detects Trojan:Script/Sabsik.FL.A!ml in the paint.net.5.1.install.anycpu.web.zip downloader, and the autoupdate process fails with error 1603. However, I could install it from the offline installer paint.net.5.1.install.x64.zip on github without any further problem.

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accuracy; I don't know for sure that the virus detection caused the autoupdate to fail
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On 11/12/2024 at 10:35 AM, Rick Brewster said:

Changed: Image->Canvas Size will no longer use the secondary color to fill in new areas for the "background" layer. It will always fill with transparent black (#00000000).

OK, thanks but now the question is WHY?  That is not how increasing the canvas size should work.  I want it to fill with the color I choose.  Why would anyone want to fill with transparent black?  How do I correct this?

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6 hours ago, Ryan Deardorff said:

The program is broken after updating to this version.  The screen won't paint fully, and I have to kill it using Task Manager.  I tried uninstalling and re-installing, but the result is the same...

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Ronstang said:

OK, thanks but now the question is WHY?  That is not how increasing the canvas size should work.  I want it to fill with the color I choose.  Why would anyone want to fill with transparent black?  How do I correct this?

 

Read the two comments I linked you to in the other thread. I gave 2 ways to achieve the same thing, and indicated this may become easily configurable in a near-term release (e.g. 5.1.1 or 5.1.2 or something like that).

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6 hours ago, Rick Brewster said:

1. Do the Canvas Resize like you always do

2. Switch to the Paint Bucket tool

3. Change the Tolerance in the toolbar to 0

4. Select the color you want in the Colors window

5. Click once in the newly transparent area

 

Unfortunately that is not going to work for me.  I use Paint. NET for one reason and that is to edit CD cover art and movie posters for my emby server.  I need to be able to quickly add anywhere from a couple to 20 pixels in width to an image and keep the color I chose for a quick look to see if it is close enough.  Other times I measure and add specific amounts of pixels but each border can be a slightly different color so I need to quickly select for that particular border.  Using the method you suggest just makes it tedious and will affect my productivity so my only option is to revert to the latest version before this update I can find online or use another program.  I am no professional but I have established some very productive ways to do all this rather quickly over the last couple of years I have been using this great program and this one upgrade simply destroys all of that.

 

6 hours ago, Rick Brewster said:

There is also the possibility that I may add a selector in Canvas Size to choose whether you want to fill the new area with Transparent, or the Primary/Secondary color. So if that happens, you won't see that if you stick to the old version -- and you won't benefit from all the newer improvements, fixes, and optimizations.

Ok, this change makes the most sense and I would greatly appreciate it but the only option for me is to revert to an older version and  just check the change log occasionally to see if you implemented it because as the program sits now it is essentially unusable for me.

 

I see a lot of awesome upgrades in this version I would like to play with when I have time but I am neither a artist nor a professional and I need simple tasks for most things so I will have to wait for them until/if you choose the selector box.

 

I apologize for earlier.  This change happened to me right in the middle of getting some work done and now I am sitting here trying to figure out a solution as I cannot do my work.  This is a great program and every update I look forward to because you keep adding awesome abilities that I see a possible use for and have occasionally changed my procedures when I learn something new.  You are doing an awesome job because this program is the closest thing to Adobe Photoshop I have ever found.  

 

Thanks for a great program!

 

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1 hour ago, Ronstang said:

Using the method you suggest just makes it tedious and will affect my productivity s

  1. Create a new layer with Ctrl + Shift + N
  2. Drag the new layer below the one with the artwork.
  3. Select all the new layer with Ctrl + A
  4. Press backspace to fill with the secondary color.

Six keys and a little mouse action. Wasn't hard at all was it?

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