chasworth Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Recommendations? Good, bad, ugly? Thanks, Chasworth Quote No ad please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Brown Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Well, anything would work well with Paint.NET, really. I'm not sure, however, if any exist that integrate the program with PDN, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 What do you mean by "Design tools"? If you just design websites, PDN may be all you need. It doesn't do any slicing or anything for you, but still. However, if you're coding the websites as well, check out: Notepad++, for the coding. IETester, for testing in IE 5.5, 6, 7, and 8b2. and this page with Firefox extensions, which are a neccesity to any web developer. All of them are freeware, which means you can use them for free, for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasworth Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Thanks Well, anything would work well with Paint.NET, really. I'm not sure, however, if any exist that integrate the program with PDN, though. Quote No ad please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonize Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I'm a web developer and my tools are PSPad for my coding/html/php/css/js etc Paint.NET for my graphic creation/editing (obviously) Web Developer Toolbar a must have for any developer using Firefox Xampp a fully fledged WAMP set up (Windows, Apache, MySQL and PHP) All browser for testing in in portable format: Firefox Portable Opera Portable Portable Safari Portable Chrome (do a search in top right for chrome) Stand Alone IE installs IE as a stand alone application. Offers IE 3, 4.01, 5.01, 5.5 and 6 but to be honest you really only need 6 as anyone using older than that really needs to update. All the above are free I might add. Quote C A R B O N I Z E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasworth Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 thanks Well, anything would work well with Paint.NET, really. I'm not sure, however, if any exist that integrate the program with PDN, though. Quote No ad please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasworth Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Thanks I will fool around with these... What do you mean by "Design tools"? If you just design websites, PDN may be all you need. It doesn't do any slicing or anything for you, but still.However, if you're coding the websites as well, check out: Notepad++, for the coding. IETester, for testing in IE 5.5, 6, 7, and 8b2. and this page with Firefox extensions, which are a neccesity to any web developer. All of them are freeware, which means you can use them for free, for ever. Quote No ad please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enormator Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I do web developing and I use for coding: notepad++ Firefox (stable) with these AddOns: Firebug, Web Developer For testing I use: Internet Explorer 7 (because I'm not a professional, I don't have to support that buggy old , IE 7 is bad enough... and also: If Microsoft wanted web developers to make their pages work with IE6, they would offer a way of using IE6 with Vista) Quote :Link: website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helio Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Aha! What's this? An updated version of Firebug? *Joy* Quote v An excellent open–source strategy game—highly recommended.  "I wish I had never been born," she said. "What are we born for?" "For infinite happiness," said the Spirit. "You can step out into it at any moment..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopHATslash Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Enormator, FFF. (Family Friendly Forum) ------ On another note, I wish to get into website development. I don't understand all the CSS though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonize Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 If Microsoft wanted web developers to make their pages work with IE6, they would offer a way of using IE6 with Vista) Have a look at my last post regarding Standalone IE. You might be on Vista but a lot of people are not. Ignore that. Even they failed to get it working. Quote C A R B O N I Z E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojopanel Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Quote <spammish sig redacted> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I useDreamweaver 8 (how posh ... NOT) paint.net There are templates that don't require CSS, you can make a html template and all it needs is a back ground colour.. like say you wanted to set your background colour to say "black" your html code would be (this is the full html code for a page) (The Code) The "red" bit is the background code.. so you don't really need css for a template unless your going to want to make a template like paint.net home page..( like frame wise) Actually, that is CSS. It just isnt on a separate stylesheet, but integrated in the page. Notice how it says type="text/css" ? This is just sloppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonize Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Notice how it says type="text/css" ? This is just sloppy. Why is this sloppy? Sometimes it makes more sense to have the CSS in the HTML as opposed to an external CSS file. If all I am making is a single page I'm not going to bother using an external file sheet. Quote C A R B O N I Z E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Notice how it says type="text/css" ? This is just sloppy. Why is this sloppy? Sometimes it makes more sense to have the CSS in the HTML as opposed to an external CSS file. If all I am making is a single page I'm not going to bother using an external file sheet. It's way more orderly. It's the same in an office. You can leave all the papers on your desk for easy access, but things get hard to reach as you add more over time. The best way to do it is archiving your papers according to content and case. While the in-document CSS may be handy for testing, it's better to put it in an external file to make the HTML document shorter, and to reuse the stylesheet on other pages later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.atwell Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Not to mention - maybe it's just one page now, but who knows how the project might grow in the future? Quote  The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypo Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 So I am determined. I will be trying to develop and release my first website within 14 days. I will design and (hopefully) code it myself. I will give myself the first few days to get to know the programs and the script, then I'm jumping into design, then the code, then release. If you wish to support, I will get a preview up to where you can sign the support book. Any ideas on the name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonize Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 If I am designing an entire site then once I have done the layout testing on a single sheet I move the CSS to an external style sheet. If I am just writing a single page or a script that will just be a single file then I put the CSS internally as making an extra sheet or a function to just display the CSS from the script when called via the link tag is stupid. Everything has it's place and there is nothing 'sloppy' about using internal CSS as and when the situation requires. Quote C A R B O N I Z E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasworth Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Well, anything would work well with Paint.NET, really. I'm not sure, however, if any exist that integrate the program with PDN, though. thanks for the info i will check it out Quote No ad please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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