What do the admins think of Stable Diffusion?

[CircleBox]

Haven't seen it brought up here yet, figured I'd make a topic about it. 

 

So how do we all feel about the AI Art? I personally am all for it. 

 

I downloaded Krita to test out it's SD integration. Seems like it could be cool. 

[Rick Brewster]

I think it's really interesting and can produce some amazing works of art. Yes, I think it's art, but it's a different kind of art than an original drawing/painting.

 

There's a lot of ethical stuff that needs to get figured out with regards to copyright and potential plagiarism. 

 

This is one of my favorites, which I found on the StableDiffusion Discord server, by Jim_MaximumJames_40:

 

[Rick Brewster]

I'm moving this from General Discussion to Grand Theory of Everything (aka off-topic).

[TrevorOutlaw]

I had some fun playing with Stable Diffusion but it is quite controversial as the debate is centered, as usual, on "What is art"?

 

[MJW]

3 hours ago, Rick Brewster said:

There's a lot of ethical stuff that needs to get figured out with regards to copyright and potential plagiarism. 

 

The question I have is, how much do the generated images match specific training images? Looking at the examples I tried, it's hard to believe they aren't, at least in some cases, more or less just image look-ups with modifications; though on the other hand, the weird combinations of terms allowed seems to make that less likely. I tried using the image-matcher TinEye to search for matching Internet images, and always got zero matches. I'm not sure if that proves much, though.

 

There's a copyright case currently being decided by the Supreme Court. In that particular case, the images are copyrighted photos of Prince recolored by Andy Warhol in his typical silk-screen style. Both the oral arguments and the facts of the case suggest Warhol's modifications won't be enough to avoid infringement, but the decision may clarify how much transformation is required to be fair use.

[Rick Brewster]

1 hour ago, TrevorOutlaw said:

I had some fun playing with Stable Diffusion but it is quite controversial as the debate is centered, as usual, on "What is art"?

 Not just "what is art?" but also "what is an artist?"

[BoltBait]

18 minutes ago, Rick Brewster said:

what is an artist?

 

One with the skill to convert thought into physical form.

[CircleBox]

4 hours ago, TrevorOutlaw said:

 

 

 

Happen to have the original PNG? Looking to yoink the prompt et all from you 😂

[TrevorOutlaw]

@CircleBox I don't care. I have a few in my folder, mainly as a source of photomanipulations I would like to do, if I can continue to master using Blender to set up the scene to be further enhanced in PDN. I am sure if you go to different website, Midjourney, for example, you will see a lot of jaw-dropping AI-generated images using string inputs.

 

4 hours ago, BoltBait said:

 

One with the skill to convert thought into physical form.

That, I think, is the idea behind AI-generated artwork and the debate is quite passionate. It basically started out as an idea, "Can AI generate image using a few words or sentence?" and suddenly there are people creating AI-generated artwork. I think Rick is right to say it risk plagiarizing from other artists.

 

Now you have AI generating code for programming or creating a website using a few input from the humans. AI were utilized to determine the best vaccine in the fight against Covid-19.  Sorry, I know the thread is about Stable Diffusion, so I'll shut up now.

 

Edit: Sorry…I got to thinking about Star Trek and how the crew used the Holodeck extensively as a form of R&R where they could be immersed in a world, such as Data playing Sherlock Holmes or Barclay suddenly given super intelligence that, using the ship’s computer, he took control of the Enterprise. We are actually getting closer to that through augmented virtual reality. AI is a big part of it. Now we do have some genius out there dreaming up of merging man with machine. I’m convinced that Space Force is a precursor of Star Trek…

Edited December 28, 2022 by TrevorOutlaw

[Rick Brewster]

It's useful to watch a video like this that roughly explains how these AI image generators work. They aren't stitching together images so much as walking backwards from random noise into something that an image recognizer can classify as matching the given prompt parameters ("space", "colorful", "astronaut", "cat", etc.). The image classifier is trained on a huge selection of images, including real art, but it's then both true and not true to say that the resulting image is "based on" those images.

 

(Mike Pound is also the guy who helped out with PDN 5's new Bokeh blur effect  very technical discussion here)

 

 

[Rick Brewster]

The Stable Diffusion Discord Server is a great place to check out if you're interested in seeing what people are actively experimenting with in this space. Loads and loads of generated images. The "Home" tab shows a lot of highlights and is constantly being updated. It's all SFW, AFAICT, but there's also a lot of anime ¯\_(ツ)_/¯