Still riculous load on PC, while installing 4.3.10

[vanGogh]

As in my remark about 4.3.7, I am still plagued, and worried, about this current install.

And mind you, that's already going on for like 15 minutes, with 100% disk-load.

 

This shouldn't be!

 

I don't suppose it is that crazy big.

And it is really worrying about what is going on.

[Rick Brewster]

You didn't share any details about your PC's specifications. CPU, disk, OS version, etc.

 

Install times will be affected by various factors. Especially this includes your disk speed, CPU speed, and antivirus.

 

Any modern CPU should have no trouble, as installation is single-threaded, but older ones (like 8+ years old) may struggle.

 

If you're using an HDD instead of an SSD, install times will be adversely affected. The installer needs to unpack about 400MB worth of files, and HDDs are very bad with this sort of thing.

 

I've also noticed that on Windows 11, at least on the Insider "Beta" channel that I'm on, Windows Defender makes the installer's startup very slow. It affects a lot of other program's startup, too. Make sure you're not using another AV, anything other than Defender is just terrible. They've all become their own kind of malware / scareware over the years.

 

If you're on a laptop, performance will be strongly affected by whether you're plugged in or running on battery (the former being much faster).

 

There's isn't a bug in the installer -- you just need to figure out what's causing the slowdown for your PC. If it's the disk, which from your description I suspect is an HDD, then you probably need to upgrade your disk to improve install times.

[vanGogh]

Installing 4.3.12.

STILL Installing 4.3.12, for already yet another 15 minutes or so, on 100% disk load.

 

This is absolutely RIDICULOUS.

This is JUST an editor, and it is the ONLY such program I get such problems.

 

NO EXCUSE blaming my PC or anti virus.

[BoltBait]

I blame you for not having an SSD hard drive.  There is NO EXCUSE for not having an SSD today.  If you had an SSD, your install would be done by now.

[vanGogh]

Even UNINSTALLING the previous version takes the same amount of FOREVER TIME.

[BoltBait]

Even though this software is given away for free... people still complain... /SMDH/

 

Listen, by today's standards, your computer is ANCIENT--you need to upgrade it.

 

[Rle]

6 hours ago, BoltBait said:

Listen, by today's standards, your computer is ANCIENT--you need to upgrade it.

Super statement, but not family-friendly.
Ever thought that not everyone has even money for a new computer over.

[toe_head2001]

If you're using an old-school Hard Drive as primary storage, that's your problem.

 

To put it into perspective for you, a typical Hard Drive will do a sequential read at around 200 MB/s

Compare that to a modern Solid State Drive, which can do the same sequential read at speeds greater that 7,000 MB/s.

Those numbers are not typos.  So, a performance increase of more than 35x.

 

13 minutes ago, Rle said:

Ever thought that not everyone has even money for a new computer over.

 

No one said a brand new computer is needed.  Even an upgrade to a cheap/slow ($25) SATA based SSD would be a "night and day" difference.

[Rick Brewster]

We've been over this and you have your answer. You need to fix or update your PC. At this point it's your fault and you need to take responsibility for it.

 

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[Rick Brewster]

7 hours ago, toe_head2001 said:

To put it into perspective for you, a typical Hard Drive will do a sequential read at around 200 MB/s

Compare that to a modern Solid State Drive, which can do the same sequential read at speeds greater that 7,000 MB/s.

It's not even the sequential performance that is the major issue with HDDs, although of course it's not great.

 

SSDs can do random reads/writes at a rate that is several orders of magnitude higher. An HDD must physically move the read/write head. So if data is scattered across the drive due to fragmentation or sparse access, or if multiple threads/processes (apps) are trying to use the HDD at the same time, they will all slow down by 1000x. (each seek is 5-10 milliseconds or so).