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Put obejcts in background and make it look good

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Hi there!

I have to following two pictures and want to put the ruins in the background. However, when I tried it just looked... unsatisfactory! So, is there anyone who could help me out by doing it for me or give tips how I can do it? I would like to place the ruins a little bit to the right from the 2nd island.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!An0k3NNBZ4JRgZBELIjLWOGMj1-NfQ?e=4FGB3Q

https://1drv.ms/u/s!An0k3NNBZ4JRgZBELIjLWOGMj1-NfQ?e=dBZa3A
 

Thanks in advance for any help :)

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Hello @PaintDotNetNoob and Welcome :)

 

You have posted two images of the same scene.  I think we need the ruins to continue with this project :)

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I'm not sure if this is the look you're going for ...

 

Achieved by making the ruins B & W >>> Set Blend Mode to Overlay >>> use the eraser on quite a large size >>> approx' 10 Hardness and blend away at the edges

 

ruins.jpg

 

What the ruins look like after using the eraser

 

ruins-blended.png

 

... duplicating the Overlay layer and changing the opacity (or not) will give a different look again

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You could also use the Gradient Tool to blend them together, like this.

 

 

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If you go the transparent gradient route - I'd recommend using a radial transparent gradient ... it gives more control IMO - Right click from the edge and draw in

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Yours is quite hard to understand for me @welshblue ':). Is it possible to make it quite a bit smaller, so its in the far background? :) Or eventually you still have the .pdn file? And i tried your way @Pixey, but it didnt worked as shown by you. :/ I believe I made all the way you showed.

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We are here to teach, not to do your work for you.

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It takes practice, practice and more practice @PaintDotNetNoob :)

 

photo-manip-2.png         ~click to see it larger~

 

2nd.png                           ~  ditto  ~

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This kind of stuff is something I enjoy doing.  I liked @welshblue approach as well with a slight difference in the hardness, I always set hardness to 0. 

 

Here's what I did under 15 minutes for fun, nothing serious.

 

underwater-ruin.png

 

@PaintDotNetNoob one thing I would advise you to do is get good quality stocks to work with.  It makes a big difference in any photomanipulation you do.

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10 hours ago, BoltBait said:

We are here to teach, not to do your work for you.

Yes, like I said: "So, is there anyone who could help me out by doing it for me OR give tips how I can do it?" I didnt asked straight for someone doing the work for me, even tho it's appreciated. But it's also great if someone can tell me how, then I should be able to do it on my own. So no need to reacts so harshly thx :). Thanks aswell for the link @Ego Eram Reputo:)

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I'd seriously recommend using the Radial Transparent Gradient if you're going that route - as a new user you're going to have far more control. 

As I said above,  Right Click on the mouse and draw the cursor into the image - plus you'll get a better 'blend' - no straight edges

 

I'm no PDN wizard but it's the eraser every time for me.  More control and as @TrevorOutlaw says - using varying degrees of hardness contributes to a better finish.  At least for me

 

Keep on trying.  Atlantis wasn't built in a day 😉

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Oh wait i think I got it :). Thanks all for your help, really appreciate that :). Haha yea, it has to be built till Monday tho lol. This picture I will need for some game fan art contest. Some things are still missing in it :)

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6 hours ago, Ego Eram Reputo said:

This is one of my favorite places to find them: Unsplash.com

 

Almost all of my stock sources is from unsplash.com, and I have also found pexels.com, another useful site for stocks.

1 hour ago, welshblue said:

I'm no PDN wizard but it's the eraser every time for me.  More control and as @TrevorOutlaw says - using varying degrees of hardness contributes to a better finish.  At least for me

 

Also, if you are lucky to have uniform background color in one stock, you could use magic wand and adjust the tolerance.  I was fortunate the ruin above had a clear sky with blue gradient that made it easier for magic wand to track and delete.

 

In the OP's case, magic wand simply won't work since the stock of choice had strong blue tint, and your suggestion to use eraser or radial transparent gradient is spot on.

 

Edi: In some case, it is possible to use remove.bg to separate foreground object from the background, but that is more tricky on complicated object like a ruin.  I tried and it deleted a lot of but retained some stuff, so manual sometime is the way to go.

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1 hour ago, PaintDotNetNoob said:

With or without light effects?

 

For me - with.  It makes the ruins stand out a lot more

 

Fair play, that's a good job

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7 hours ago, PaintDotNetNoob said:

likes last reply of @welshblue* ;)

 

Gosh don't worry about a rep' point ... you've said, 'Thanks' to us all ... sometimes people don't do that 

 

I'm sure we're all glad you got it sorted

 

(Rep' points are limited to 10 a day - so that we use them wisely )

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