Vovan29 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Why Small Fonts, System and Terminal fonts are unavailable in the font menu? And how to make them available in PDN 4.1.5 on Win7 x64? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixey Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Hello @Vovan29 and Welcome Please try this: 1. Go to your Font Folder. 2. Right click on the font not showing and choose "Show". Quote How I made Jennifer & Halle in Paint.net My Gallery | My Deviant Art "Rescuing one animal may not change the world, but for that animal their world is changed forever!" anon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHaveNoName Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) There have been several threads posted about this sort of matter recenty including one I started myself:- https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/113810-text-and-text-window-installed-fonts-missing-from-menu/?do=findComment&comment=554883 There are system fonts which the main PDN text tool does not offer but some plugins actually do and vice versa. The technical explanation by Rick Brewster in that thread is that PDN uses DirectWrite and many plugins use GDI. Each has different typographic support criteria. Someone here correct me if I'm wrong but DirectWrite is supposed to support GDI but I noted in that MS doc there is some sort of issue involving installing fonts from "untrusted sources". The OS (Operating System) requires "elevated privileges to assure all installed fonts are trusted". I think what that means in effect is that PDN and some of its plugins have different 'white' lists for fonts. The other thing Rick Brewster mentioned ie. that DirectWrite does not support Bitmap fonts (like Terminal) so if you add that into the equation then the difference in the font support between the OS, PDN and some of its plugins has an explanation even if rather technical. The practical consequence for users is that there is nothing you can do except accept these font support anomalies. EDIT Pixey's suggestion may well work with fonts that are marked as hidden but that is definitely not the case with Small Fonts, System and Terminal. None of those are hidden fonts, I have them on my PC and the only option available is actually to Hide them. Confirmed if you click on Properties for each font too. The unsupported Bitmap font explanation is most likely what the problem is with Small Fonts and System too. Edited March 5, 2019 by IHaveNoName incorrectly formed hyperlinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 @IHaveNoName identified the key here: Paint.NET uses DirectWrite, which does not support raster/bitmap fonts such as Terminal. Simple as that. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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