G'MIC (2023-05-30)

[lifeday]

Hi @dipstick,
it's wonderful that it worked out so fast with you and it seems to be easy - it just doesn't help me because I don't know the way and don't find it either, a success is far away for me. :-)))) 

The path is the goal - you know it, I don't, unfortunately. 
Have a nice evening

[dipstick]

1) put your car image on the bottom layer.

2) put your style on the top layer.

3) select the bottom layer and hit Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C and Ctrl+D

4) run G'mic and switch to use bottom layer instead of top layer.

5) hit OK button.

 

It should Finnish around 5 min with those small images. The bottom layer will be replaced with the new image created.

 

OK, here's one I did earlier. I made the Style layer using a Lightning brush;

Edited December 29, 2018 by dipstick

[Eli]

@null54 Thanks for giving us access to the G'MIC tool. It is like having another program inside Paint.Net. I am playing with it and find the filters very interesting. 

 

@lifeday I am testing the Stylize filter and it is working for me. I followed null54's advice but it is very, very, very slow to render.

[Pixey]

Wow!  Thank you @dipstick for explaining those steps. I would never have thought to combine two images together like that.  I reproduced your steps.  One layer a photo of a mouse surrounded by fruit, and the other layer with a space scene and got this:

 

 

Actually - I don't think it worked, as there is no sign of the space image   Anyway, quite a nice result nevertheless.  I will keep on trying!

[HyReZ]

@null54

Your assumption was presumptuous!  🙂
I did use equal sized images.

@dipstick

Even after downloading the 453 page PDF documentation for G'MIC, I could not locate nfo on the Artistic/Stylize filter.
Thanks for providing the ctrl commands for loading the images! It worked!

https://gmic.eu/gmic_reference.pdf

Edited December 30, 2018 by HyReZ

[dipstick]

You won't find much information about G'mic Stylize Filter because it just got released and is still in Alpha stages. The best source of information can be found in This Thread.

[lifeday]

Hi @dipstick

 

I have tried the information you entered - thank you for that - in hours of trials. Only every 20th attempt succeeded. It took even longer to get the two pictures on the right tits picture.
Enclosed two of these attempts. I am not happy with it and will refrain from further attempts. It is little joy, rather frustration about the result. But I have managed to create such a picture three times. That's enough :-))))))
Have a good day! 

 

 

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[lifeday]

@dipstick

 

The second picture is here.

 

[lifeday]

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[lifeday]

Just now, lifeday said:

 

Sorry, I'm a little diffuse. The picture is the second picture.

 

[lifeday]

 

Pixey wrote

@lifeday I am testing the Stylize filter and it is working for me. I followed null54's advice but it is very, very, very slow to render

 

Hello, dear @Pixey, 

 

I also followed the instructions from null54's. It is clear and concise. Only the instruction: 
4) Execute G'mic and change e.g. picture 1 (Auto) from the lower level to the upper level. 
I assume that null54 meant to swap the layers on Paint.net. 
Here, however, my problem begins: Once I have started G'mic, I can no longer perform any actions in Paint.net. 

I don't know how I managed to do the two pictures - after trying them out for hours I don't know. I made further attempts yesterday and it didn't work. 

I would have tried this process in Krita or Gimp if I had mastered these programs. I only downloaded them for g'mic and the filters so that I could use those that don't run on Paint.net there. 

Have a good start in 2019 and greetings from Hamburg

 

[null54]

1 hour ago, lifeday said:

Here, however, my problem begins: Once I have started G'mic, I can no longer perform any actions in Paint.net.

 

@dipstick was referring to the Style option in the G'MIC Stylize filter UI (it is the drop down menu at the top).

In that menu you would select "Custom Style (Bottom Layer)" instead of the default option "Custom Style (Top Layer)".

The Stylize filter Custom Style options use the top and bottom layer to determine the image it will use as the style.

[ScrapbookWithPDN]

Hi @lifeday, if this helps even a little more, What Null is telling you, and I hope he doesn't mind if I give a little bit more about this, but when you use the Gmic plugin, once the UI (User Interface.....when you have G'mic up and running in front of you), at the top you see the list of filters. The filters have a "+" sign next to them to click on, which allows a drop down menu to appear showing you the many special effects/filters you can use below each main filter category.  The specific technique Null and Dipstick are referring to, from everything I've seen following their given info, the particular main filter you need to click on is "Artistic", which is, I think, the third one from the top. Click on the plus sign next to it. You'll then see many special effects display. Scroll down on them until you see the one that says, "Stylize". Once you click on/select "Stylize" a new UI (User Interface) shows just on the right side of the entire plugin. At the top of the right side you should see a button you can click on, right across from the word "Style". Once you click on that arrow button, you'll then see more of what Null and Dipstick are referring to. At least this is how I understood the info.

 

I know it can be a bit confusing for some people. I hope this has helped some understand it a bit more. If I have failed to understand it, I apologize for adding to any confusion.

Edited January 2, 2019 by ScrapbookWithPDN
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[Pixey]

On 12/29/2018 at 4:45 PM, dipstick said:

1) put your car image on the bottom layer.

2) put your style on the top layer.

3) select the bottom layer and hit Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C and Ctrl+D

4) run G'mic and switch to use bottom layer instead of top layer.

5) hit OK button.

 

 

 

@dipstick  Shouldn't the style layer be copied to the clipboard?

[Pixey]

On 1/1/2019 at 4:47 PM, lifeday said:

 

Pixey wrote

@lifeday I am testing the Stylize filter and it is working for me. I followed null54's advice but it is very, very, very slow to render

 

Hello, dear @Pixey, 

 

I also followed the instructions from null54's. It is clear and concise. Only the instruction: 
4) Execute G'mic and change e.g. picture 1 (Auto) from the lower level to the upper level. 
I assume that null54 meant to swap the layers on Paint.net. 
Here, however, my problem begins: Once I have started G'mic, I can no longer perform any actions in Paint.net. 

I don't know how I managed to do the two pictures - after trying them out for hours I don't know. I made further attempts yesterday and it didn't work. 

I would have tried this process in Krita or Gimp if I had mastered these programs. I only downloaded them for g'mic and the filters so that I could use those that don't run on Paint.net there. 

Have a good start in 2019 and greetings from Hamburg

 

 

I have made a little video for you which I hope will be helpful.  It does get a bit confusing when talking about layers, because of using two pieces of software at the same time.

 

 

[HyReZ]

@Pixey

I like the information presented in your video tutorial, but the frames of the processing time needs an edit.

[GillFelis]

6 minutes ago, HyReZ said:

@Pixey

I like the information presented in your video tutorial, but the frames of the processing time needs an edit.

 

But Pixey's tutorial does demonstrate the slowness of the G'MIC toy.

[HyReZ]

It does that extremely well, but in this instance a few words are better than a thousand pictures. 🙂 

Edited January 2, 2019 by HyReZ

[GillFelis]

4 minutes ago, HyReZ said:

It does that extremely well, but in this instance a few words are better than a thousand pictures. 🙂 

 

D'accord. Do let us know how you would have accomplished a helpful video tutorial that shows in real time how G'MIC delivers.

 

In just a few words.

[toe_head2001]

16 minutes ago, GillFelis said:

Do let us know how you would have accomplished a helpful video tutorial that shows in real time how G'MIC delivers.

 

"Real-time" is relative here, as it depends on CPU performance. What took approximately 2 minutes on Pixey's computer may take 3 minutes on another computer. If someone is using a high core count processor, like a AMD Ryzen, it would probably take less than a minute.

 

Since the time is so subjective, I see little point of showing the video in real-time; I would have speed up the video or time-lapsed it.

My two cents. Feel free to disagree.

[HyReZ]

@GillFelis
It seems that you are searching for a confrontation when none is warranted. I love Pixey's work and her current tutorial. It is great but a few less frames and a notice that the process will takes a while; is a constructive comment. 

Edited January 2, 2019 by HyReZ

[Pixey]

@HyReZ I was worried about that, but I lack the expertise on how to speed up only a portion of a video.  I will look into it and will replace the original when I discover how to

[HyReZ]

@Pixey

 

There are some free apps that will let you do non-linear edits as well as screen full or partial screen captures.
If your screen capture is less than 10 minutes; Microsoft has an End-Of- Product-Life app called "Microsoft Expression Encoder 4"
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18974

 

This two part app does both full or partial video screen capture and non-linear editing & trans-coding. There are many video tutorials out there on how to use it and I would be glad to help!

Edited January 2, 2019 by HyReZ

[Reptillian]

I got news for the Stylize filter, the main maintainer of the G'MIC processing library has managed to make the Stylize filter work 5 to 6 times faster.

 

This could have implication on the processing speed of filters in the next version of G'MIC. G'MIC being slower on Windows is a known issue.

 

Source - discuss.pixls.us/t/performance-issues-on-windows/10626/9

 

That is the creator of G'MIC on that thread.

[lifeday]

Dear @Pixey,

 

in German we say "there will be a shoe out of it"
Thank you for your effort and therefore for your help. So it makes sense for me. I will write down the steps as you have given them and if everything works out, I will include them in my advanced PdF so that I can look them up again and again.
Greetings from Hamburg