jmc92 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I crashed twice on the latest Pdn version, and I saved the logs to upload here. The 1st log was with gpu rendering enabled, the second log was with it disabled. pdncrash.1.log pdncrash.2.log Quote I made that with pdn ^^ (but I dont remember how ~_~) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Both crash logs report the same thing: Exception details: System.AccessViolationException: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt. (PaintDotNet.Canvas.CanvasControl) You may have a memory module which is failing. Try running one (or both) of these tests: https://www.howtogeek.com/260813/how-to-test-your-computers-ram-for-problems/ Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmc92 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 I wouldn't doubt it, when I consider that the computer is a few years old, but I ran Dell's pre boot system tests that are a part of it's bios just last week, and there were no problems found with the memory modules, only that the battery is at half of it's expected life span. These crashes occurred when I held down ctrl- and zoomed all the way out, and then ctrl+, zooming all the way in, in succession. I repeated this a couple times, and each time I tried it, I crashed. Now of course this isn't something that people will be normally doing, so it's probably not critical, but it does bare looking into I think. Quote I made that with pdn ^^ (but I dont remember how ~_~) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_head2001 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Looks like an Direct2D graphics issue. Quote C:\Windows\system32\igd10iumd64.dll, version=10.18.10.3939 C:\Windows\system32\igdusc64.dll, version=10.18.10.3939 Your Intel graphics drivers are out-of-date. You can find newer ones for your hardware here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28163/?product=85212 Install the newer drivers, and let us know if that solves the issue. Quote June 9th, 2023: Sorry about any broken images in my posts. I am aware of the issue. My Gallery | My Plugin Pack Layman's Guide to CodeLab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmc92 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) I downloaded the intel driver detection tool, and it scanned my computer, and says it's all up to date and working properly, but also gave me this readout, regarding the graphics drivers. Intel® HD Graphics 5500 A customized computer manufacturer driver is installed on your computer. The Intel Driver & Support Assistant is not able to update the driver. Installing a generic Intel driver instead of the customized computer manufacturer driver may cause technical issues. Contact your computer manufacturer for the latest driver for your computer. Adapter CompatibilityIntel Corporation Video ProcessorIntel® HD Graphics Family Resolution1366 x 768 Bits Per Pixel32 Number of Colors4294967296 Refresh Rate - Current59 Hz Refresh Rate - Maximum59 Hz Refresh Rate - Minimum47 Hz Driver ProviderIntel Corporation Driver Version10.18.10.3939 Driver Date9/8/2014 Adapter DAC TypeInternal Adapter RAM1.00 GB AvailabilityRunning at full power StatusThis device is working properly. LocationPCI bus 0, device 2, function 0 Edited November 8, 2018 by jmc92 Quote I made that with pdn ^^ (but I dont remember how ~_~) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_head2001 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, jmc92 said: Installing a generic Intel driver instead of the customized computer manufacturer driver may cause technical issues. Contact your computer manufacturer for the latest driver for your computer. Looks like you're using a Dell. Dell provides driver updates on their site. Just enter your computer model or service tag ID. https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04?app=drivers&c=us&l=en&~ck=mn Quote June 9th, 2023: Sorry about any broken images in my posts. I am aware of the issue. My Gallery | My Plugin Pack Layman's Guide to CodeLab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmc92 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) Got another crash. Took a few more zoomings this time though. pdncrash.4.log I'm going to be using a system restore, as the updated drivers seem to be over working my computer just a bit. Hopefully you guys can work this out if it's repeatable for you or your other devs, as for me, it's not particularly bothersome, as it is a fairly unusual circumstance. Edited November 8, 2018 by jmc92 Quote I made that with pdn ^^ (but I dont remember how ~_~) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I believe this is the same bug I fixed for 4.1.4 that was causing crashes for so many others, but a much rarer variant of it. Stay tuned -- I should be able to have a beta build with a fix in about a day, so you can try it out and verify that it's 100% fixed instead of 99.9% fixed like in 4.1.4. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Also, you might check some of the native software that's showing up in your crash log. You have a lot of DLLs from WIDCOMM "Bluetooth Software", there's Dell Backup & Recovery software that I believe is discontinued now, and AVAST antivirus is also hooking in for some reason. Try disabling/uninstalling those and see if you can still reproduce the crash. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmc92 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 I'll give it a go with different things disabled/enabled and post back here if I get to a point where it doesn't crash anymore upon the unusual zooming circumstances. Quote I made that with pdn ^^ (but I dont remember how ~_~) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 If you're still having crashes, try this beta build and let me know if it does or does not fix things: Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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