Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Hi- Having difficulty cropping an elliptical portion from a rectangular photo. After cropping, the rectangular layer is left behind and I can't figure out how to outline the elliptical cropped element from there. The files are to big to attach here to illustrate. Sure appreciate any and all help. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Image is the rectangular background layer... 2nd layer was created over top, and ellipse was created accordingly..... Edited March 10, 2018 by Timbo128 picked wrong file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 This is what I wind up with, with 4 cornered transparency left behind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_head2001 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Images are always rectangular. Elliptical images don't exist. 1 Quote (September 25th, 2023) Sorry about any broken images in my posts. I am aware of the issue. My Gallery | My Plugin Pack Layman's Guide to CodeLab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 There doesn't seem to be any way for me to grab the elliptical image with the wand or anything to put an outline around the image... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_head2001 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 BoltBait provides an Outline plugin in his pack: https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/32048-boltbaits-plugin-pack-for-pdn-v406-updated-aug-16-2017/ 1 Quote (September 25th, 2023) Sorry about any broken images in my posts. I am aware of the issue. My Gallery | My Plugin Pack Layman's Guide to CodeLab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, toe_head2001 said: Images are always rectangular. Elliptical images don't exist. AHH!... that's a clue, right there!... so, I'll try to manipulate with Rectangle Select?... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, toe_head2001 said: BoltBait provides an Outline plugin in his pack: https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/32048-boltbaits-plugin-pack-for-pdn-v406-updated-aug-16-2017/ Yes, I have his pack installed, along with the Russian guys, and one other one, too. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_head2001 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Wait... when you say "outline", do you really mean "select"? 1 Quote (September 25th, 2023) Sorry about any broken images in my posts. I am aware of the issue. My Gallery | My Plugin Pack Layman's Guide to CodeLab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, toe_head2001 said: Wait... when you say "outline", do you really mean "select"? My ultimate objective is to have an elliptical background of that cheetah's head with a black outline (border) around it with a given weight (thkns) to that border. I've been messing with this for 2 hrs., Googling every query before coming here, because I know we rookies are a bore to you experts. I've just run into issues with this ellipse deal. I've made some graphics already here- seems to be a use and learn prog... most of the guys I know use Illustrator and Photoshop for these vinyl graphics, and charge an arm n' a leg... these are just r/c boats I'm dealing with... below's an example. Thanks! Edited March 10, 2018 by Timbo128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 In that case, remove the bit outside the ellipse (as you've done), then run BoltBait's Outline Object on the layer. Find it in the Effects > Object submenu. To preserve the transparency, save it as a *.PNG, not JPG. 1 Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 The reason this works; the elliptical bit that remains is known as an "object". These are groups of pixels which border transparent pixels. BoltBait's plugin finds the transition from opaque to transparent and applies the effect at the edge. cool eh? 1 Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ego Eram Reputo said: The reason this works; the elliptical bit that remains is known as an "object". These are groups of pixels which border transparent pixels. BoltBait's plugin finds the transition from opaque to transparent and applies the effect at the edge. cool eh? Yeah, thanks... if you look at the first attachments we included, 2nd elliptical image with checkered transparent background, I want to make that a layer other than 'background'...then I can bring the true background in and manipulate the layer with cat's head to suit... it seems that there would be a plugin tool to do such, making it very easy. I've no issue doing that with multiple layers, as illustrated above in '45' image, flattening them to one image and saving as PNG. I haven't had any printed to vinyl yet, but hope they come out good with the PNG file extension at 300 dpi... this one below the guy did with Illustrator and he claims he had 4 hrs. into...printed to vinyl with stunning clarity at 300 dpi and latex inks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I'm not sure if this is pertinent, but if you want to select the opaque elliptical region, first select the transparent region with the Magic Wand, then invert the selection. (BTW, I like that image.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Timbo128 said: it seems that there would be a plugin tool to do such, making it very easy. Layers > Import from file. Select the background image. After it has imported, drag the imported layer below the elliptical one in the Layers window. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, MJW said: I'm not sure if this is pertinent, but if you want to select the opaque elliptical region, first select the transparent region with the Magic Wand, then invert the selection. (BTW, I like that image.) Yeah, clearly the guy that did that 'JRX Hydros' graphic's a very skilled dude... he works for some big corporation and knows his way around the Adobe Creative Suites very well. Yes, I had tried as you suggested before we even started this thread. Thank's for participating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Ego Eram Reputo said: Layers > Import from file. Select the background image. After it has imported, drag the imported layer below the elliptical one in the Layers window. Thanks...we'll play with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo128 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Thanks for all the input... much appreciated!... we've resolved the issue. I don't know if I have to start a new thread, or not, but we have another question- Same project- We have the cat's head background ellipsed correctly and fine tuned.... created a new layer, made another ellipse with a degree of transparency using 'draw filled shape with outline' from shapes menu>ellipse... now my question is how do I make the layer with with ellipse larger, maintaining aspect ratio, without the background layer changing, too?... in other words, I want the two layers to have the same aspect ratio but different sized ellipses... can I expand just the one layer to suit?... Muchas Gracias! Timbo Edited March 10, 2018 by Timbo128 Forgot attachment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Add the bevel ellipse on a layer on the top of the list. Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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