Julianis Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) This problem only came up recently for me, as of the latest update. Where my default program was set to Paintdotnet and the thumbnails were showing up. Now, they display the logo or icon, whichever it is. This is with new files that are either created or saved now. Reverting default to the Windows Photo Viewer changes it to the thumbnail, and then going back again to Paintdotnet keeps the thumbnail as it should be. Any solutions to this, or what? Edit: I know that PDN is not suppose to register thumbnails, but it has been showing the thumbnails for image files until now. Edited September 30, 2017 by Julianis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I don't completely follow ... So you're saying that images only show the Paint.NET logo now, instead of the thumbnail for the image. But then if you "jiggle the handle" by switching things to Photo Viewer and then back to Paint.NET, it works again? And is this for *.PDN or non-PDN images or what? Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Same here, but I just could live with it as I set pictures to be open with MS viewer by default. I didn't report this but it was before the first v4.0.18. I was suspecting some settings on my windows for not storing the thumbnails... Thumbnails help a lot when you need to sort out over 30-50 gifs for animate images. Edit: same for extension jpg Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julianis Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Rick Brewster said: I don't completely follow ... So you're saying that images only show the Paint.NET logo now, instead of the thumbnail for the image. But then if you "jiggle the handle" by switching things to Photo Viewer and then back to Paint.NET, it works again? And is this for *.PDN or non-PDN images or what? 2 hours ago, MadJik said: Same here, but I just could live with it as I set pictures to be open with MS viewer by default. I didn't report this but it was before the first v4.0.18. I was suspecting some settings on my windows for not storing the thumbnails... Thumbnails help a lot when you need to sort out over 30-50 gifs for animate images. Edit: same for extension jpg It's like how in the images MadJik posted. One image is saved becomes the logo, then when I switch the default program to Viewer, it becomes the image it is suppose to be. But then when I switch back to PDN, it stays as if I was using Viewer. Like, my only problem is the most recent update made it so my thumbnails always go to the logo when I save now, when it was never the case before. My only solution would be is to use Viewer as default now and then remember to open with PDN instead of double clicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON67 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) Same here... but only since 4.0.18 and only for NEW EDITED files, not for older ones. Edited October 1, 2017 by IRON67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 40 minutes ago, IRON67 said: Same here... but only since 4.0.18 and only for NEW EDITED files, not for older ones. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_head2001 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 hours ago, IRON67 said: only for NEW EDITED files, not for older ones. What happens if you clear the thumbnail cache in Windows? Quote (September 25th, 2023) Sorry about any broken images in my posts. I am aware of the issue. My Gallery | My Plugin Pack Layman's Guide to CodeLab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON67 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, toe_head2001 said: What happens if you clear the thumbnail cache in Windows? Now all thumbs are gone include the older ones. Only pdn-files shows thumbs. Not so nice for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Okay I'm hoping to get a fix out for this ASAP. In this update I had to upgrade the thumbnail handling code to a newer version that Windows needed. It doesn't seem to be "passing through" requests for file types that it doesn't handle. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 You're both using the Classic release, right? (not from the Windows Store) Can you install this build of 4.0.19 and tell me if thumbnails are now working for you? https://www.getpaint.net/files/zip/test/paint.net.4.19.6483.35373.install.zip The thumbnail code is a little tricky to debug. I'm never 100% sure that Windows is actually using my newer code. I was able to reproduce the problem, and my fix works for me, but ... I need extra validations from you all The fix, assuming it's working of course, is for my thumbnail provider to delegate to the default built-in thumbnail handler (CLSID_PhotoThumbnailProvider, https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb774614(v=vs.85).aspx ) for images that it doesn't recognize (anything other than PDN files, in other words). For some reason this "chaining" behavior isn't automatic. 1 Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziro Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Hey Rick. I tried build 4.0.19, and the thumbnails now appear to be working again. (Using Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit.) I downloaded 4.0.18 from getpaint.net. Thanks! Quote _______________________ -ZIRO OUT. Please play my two games, Blast Force and Laser Stryker. (Classic Bomberman and Beamrider) (-: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Great, thanks! Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDavid Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Rick Brewster said: I need extra validations from you all Hey @Rick Brewster Never really considered it an issue as in some folders the preview image would show and in others it wouldn't. My test case was looking in "recent files" under¨"quick access". After installing your beta version - opening these "default Paint" icons and performing a save - the image reverted to the proper preview image. Also after reboot they showed up too. I would consider the issue resolved for WIN10. Note2 - I thought the AGIFs were not associated with paint - but they are! Those thumbnail images are still not showing. The GIF that is showing was made in paint so they are OK. I bet you know the reason for this (Windows related I bet) Edited October 2, 2017 by AndrewDavid added Note2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLeeuw Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 The problem still exists after installing 4.0.18. I'm using W10 64 bit. See attached pictures from Windows Explorer. It seems to me that the file-suffix is amended through PaintdotNet. After removing version 4.0.17 (??) all *.jpg files appeared oké in Windows Explorer. Knipsel.jpg presents detailed mode of Explorer and Knipse_1 are large pictograms. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_head2001 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 38 minutes ago, HansLeeuw said: The problem still exists after installing 4.0.18. It was my understanding that the issue started in v4.0.18. Quote (September 25th, 2023) Sorry about any broken images in my posts. I am aware of the issue. My Gallery | My Plugin Pack Layman's Guide to CodeLab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDavid Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) On 30/09/2017 at 4:49 PM, Julianis said: I didn't report this but it was before the first v4.0.18. I too lived with the issue @toe_head2001 but never thought of it as a paint issue - more a windows shortcoming, After reading the latest post - I looked again and here's what I see; Edited October 2, 2017 by AndrewDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richtea Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Windows 8.1. 4.18 was failing. 4.19 is working. Sweet. Good work Mr Brewster. Donation sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolV Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Well, I am thinking it is working... going to log off and back on and whip it up again. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL DONATE AGAIN SHORTLY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Awesome, glad it's working And this helps me to release 4.0.19 with confidence, so thanks! Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claude parmentier Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Hello, Thank you for Build 4.0.19 , it works now (Windows 7, 64 bit) Best regards Claude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro-GX Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Hey Rick! Unfortunately it is still an issue with Targa (.tga) files on Windows 10, 64 bit. I just installed the update today and I'm having nearly the same problem as described above - all Targa images that were displayed as thumbnails in Explorer are now showing the default PDN icon. I tried the following: Deleted the thumbnail cache Verified that under Folder Options, "Always show icons, never thumbnails" was unchecked. Uninstalled and re-installed PDN 4.0.19. Tried switching the default app to another image editor and then back to PDN. Rebooted after performing each step above. Let me know if there is something I missed. It was definitely working on Win 10 in previous versions. Looking forward to a fix, the thumbnail feature was very handy! Edited October 3, 2017 by Pyro-GX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Pyro-GX, unfortunately TGAs have never had thumbnail support. Not from Paint.NET at least. Hopefully someday! Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro-GX Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Hmm, that is odd. They were working just fine before the latest update, and I definitely had PDN set as the default program for opening TGA files... Do you have a link to an older build that I can download and install for testing purposes? Update: As a workaround, I installed SageThumbs, which restored TGA thumbnail functionality to Explorer. I then had to reset PDN as the default program for opening TGA images, and thumbnail functionality remained intact. As a friendly suggestion, perhaps you may want to add a warning in the installer next to the option that allows PDN to be the default program for TGA files that associating TGA filetypes with PDN may potentially break thumbnail functionality in Explorer. Or perhaps you can add TGA thumbnail support in the next patch. I don't mean to be pedantic on the issue, but the point is you modified thumbnail related code prior to this latest version, this post was created as a result of others seeing a similar issue I was having with thumbnails, and now TGA thumbnails require a workaround in order to restore previous functionality until you officially support it in PDN itself. So I can't simply accept that "TGAs have never had thumbnail support" even if you are only speaking about PDN. Edited October 3, 2017 by Pyro-GX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike TinT Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) Yes, that build fixed it for me as well. Windows 8.1. I didn't realize there is a paid version - I will gladly purchase it if I can figure out how. Edit: I see the store version is only Windows 10. Edited October 6, 2017 by Mike TinT clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesdragon1964 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I just got the latest patch and the same thing happened to me only worse. Each picture had its own folder was very annoying spent 2 hours trying to figure it out then came here because I have paint.net as my default app. your latest patch (above) worked fine it restored all my files so all I have to do is open one folder to see my thumbnails. Thanks so much for fixing it so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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