Clyde Ford Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Rick, Love PDN and thank you. Unfortunately, 4.0.15 isn't working for me under Windows 10 on a Surface Pro 4, 16 GB RAM, 1TB HDD. 4.0.14 worked fine. When I try hitting CTRL-N in PDN, I get the typical blue spinning cursor but it never stops and PDN goes into a "NOT RESPONDING" state. Have tried re-starting and cold re-booting my system with no luck. Need to switch back to 4.0.14 Clyde W. Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Hmm, that shouldn't be possible ... if 4.0.15 does that, then 4.0.14 probably will too. But, please report back if it does work. There was a small change to some clipboard handling in 4.0.14, so if you've got something in the clipboard then that could do it. To see if this is the issue, open up Notepad and type some text, select it, then press Ctrl+C (Edit->Copy). And then see if Paint.NET is happier. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Ford Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 Rick, investigated this a little further. If I have a FF image in the clipboard--even if not pasting it to PDN--then CTRL-N does not for me in PDN. Tried under Chrome (by copying an image) and do not have the same problem. Looks like a FF problem. Thanks, Clyde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Argh! Thanks for the information -- that helps. I've added it to my bug details. Do you have any specific images that cause this? As in, do you have a link to a page with an image, or to an image directly? As much information as you can provide me. I'm thinking of moving the clipboard handling code to be out-of-process. That will allow the main process (PaintDotNet.exe) to be more resilient to all these clipboard problems. Like if it takes too long, it can be aborted. And it won't be able to corrupt memory, like I'm seeing in some other crash reports (TextBox crashes, why?!). Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Quote Do you have any specific images that cause this? As in, do you have a link to a page with an image, or to an image directly? As much information as you can provide me. Using Firefox 52.0.2 (32bit), Windows 10 up to date. If I right click on my recent image here problem image select copy image. Then if I go into Pdn and use Edit/Paste it hangs and says not responding. However, if I choose 'Paste into new layer' it works ok (a little slower than expected but no hang). My image is hosted on Imgur. Reproduced same behaviour every time for me. If I try the same thing on E.E.R's map image in the post below, the right click context menu is different but copy image followed by paste in Pdn works as expected. I hope that helps track down the problem. Edit: Additionally, just having the image on the clip board means File/ new image sends Pdn into a not responding state. Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. Diabolical Drawings ................Real Paintings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 10? Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON67 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, Clyde Ford said: When I try hitting CTRL-N in PDN, I get the typical blue spinning cursor but it never stops and PDN goes into a "NOT RESPONDING" state. Same behaviour in Windows 7, 64bit, also by clicking the menu-icon for New Image, but I can kill the PaintDotNet.exe process in task-manager. Edit: After running some Windows-Updates including Security- and Quality Rollup for .Net-Framework (KB4014981) all is fine now. BTW: I told it before, but pasting images from clipboard after copying in actual Firefox works for me. Edited April 13, 2017 by IRON67 Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Quote 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 10? System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor Edition: Windows 10 Home Version: 1607 (last updates installed 12/04/2017 - NO Creators update yet) OS Build: 14393.1066 Firefox is version 52.0.2 (32-bit) Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. Diabolical Drawings ................Real Paintings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Hmm. I can't repro this with Firefox 52.0.2, whether it's 32-bit or 64-bit. I don't have the Creator's Update yet either. Red ochre, are you up to date on all other Windows updates? I'll try later today on a few other machines and see what happens. Also, when Paint.NET is hung like this, does it show up as eating a lot of CPU in Task Manager? Or is it stuck at 0% ? Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 O.K. that's weird. After the problem reproduced many times yesterday and earlier, now it Pastes fine BUT creating a new image causes a not responding message. Windows 10 is fully up to date. C.P.U around 5% see screen shot here I had task manager running before attempting paste, the spike is when I tried File/new, I think. Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. Diabolical Drawings ................Real Paintings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 What is Paint.NET's cpu usage over on the Details tab? If Paint.NET is actually the one eating up CPU, we can use something like Windows Performance Recorder to help track this down. I think I'm going to try and split this out into its own thread though ... Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I took a look at the Reliability monitor and noticed some problems with the MS update on the 12th and have just performed a full Kaspersky scan (no threats found). Here are links to screenshots that may help - most of it is meaningless to me! I'm not familiar with Windows Performance Recorder but if it will help, let me know what you need. http://imgur.com/fDRhcfk http://imgur.com/vn2cUgG http://imgur.com/6kROGvK http://imgur.com/V8lZowW Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. Diabolical Drawings ................Real Paintings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Well, if it's not using any CPU time, then WPR won't really be helpful It's deadlocked on something... Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I just tried using Chrome and that works perfectly, I then tried Edge and it crashed Pdn - Crashlog below. Spoiler I just tried using Chrome and that works perfectly, I then tried Edge and it crashed Pdn - Crashlog below. This text file was created because paint.net crashed. Please e-mail this to crashlog4@getpaint.net so we can diagnose and fix the problem. Application version: paint.net 4.0.15 (Final 4.15.6309.42632) Time of crash: 13/04/2017 23:35:47 Application uptime: 00:03:19.4822417 Application state: Running Working set: 174,800 KiB Handles and threads: 1362 handles, 26 threads, 180 gdi, 245 user Install directory: C:\Program Files\NEWpdn Current directory: C:\Program Files\NEWpdn OS Version: 10.0.14393.0 Workstation x64 .NET version: CLR 4.0.30319.42000 x64, FX 4.6 Processor: "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70GHz" @ ~2394MHz (2C/4T, DEP, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4_1, SSE4_2, XSAVE) Physical memory: 6052 MB Video card: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family (v:8086, d:A16, r:11), Microsoft Basic Render Driver (v:1414, d:8C, r:0) Hardware acceleration: True (default: True) UI animations: False UI DPI: 96.00 dpi (1.00x scale) UI theme: Aero/Aero + DWM (Aero.msstyles) Updates: False, 08/07/2016 Locale: pdnr.c: en-US, hklm: en-US, hkcu: en-US, cc: en-GB, cuic: en-US Flags: Exception details: System.AccessViolationException: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt. at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.CallWindowProc(IntPtr wndProc, IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.DefWndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.TextBox.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) Managed assemblies: mscorlib, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\mscorlib.dll PaintDotNet, Version=4.15.6309.42632, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\PaintDotNet.exe PaintDotNet.Base, Version=4.15.6309.42632, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\PaintDotNet.Base.dll WindowsBase, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35 @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\WindowsBase\v4.0_4.0.0.0__31bf3856ad364e35\WindowsBase.dll System.Core, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Core\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Core.dll System, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.dll System.Drawing, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Drawing\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Drawing.dll PresentationFramework, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35 @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\PresentationFramework\v4.0_4.0.0.0__31bf3856ad364e35\PresentationFramework.dll PresentationCore, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35 @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_64\PresentationCore\v4.0_4.0.0.0__31bf3856ad364e35\PresentationCore.dll System.Windows.Forms, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll PaintDotNet.Core, Version=4.15.6309.42632, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\PaintDotNet.Core.dll PaintDotNet.SystemLayer, Version=4.15.6309.42632, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.dll PaintDotNet.Framework, Version=4.15.6309.42632, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\PaintDotNet.Framework.dll PaintDotNet.Resources, Version=4.15.6309.42632, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\PaintDotNet.Resources.dll PaintDotNet.Data, Version=4.15.6309.42632, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\PaintDotNet.Data.dll PaintDotNet.Effects, Version=4.15.6309.42632, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\PaintDotNet.Effects.dll PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x64, Version=4.15.6309.42632, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x64.dll System.Configuration, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Configuration\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Configuration.dll System.Xml, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Xml\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Xml.dll System.Xaml, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Xaml\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Xaml.dll Accessibility, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\Accessibility\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\Accessibility.dll "AA's_Assistant", Version=1.0.3697.21415, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\AA's_Assistant.dll Aardvark, Version=1.0.6.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\Aardvark.dll AForge, Version=2.2.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=c1db6ff4eaa06aeb @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\AForge.dll AForge.Imaging, Version=2.2.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=ba8ddea9676ca48b @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\AForge.Imaging.dll AlphaThreshold, Version=1.0.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\AlphaThreshold.dll ArgusPaintNet.EdgeDetection, Version=1.0.5744.32049, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\ArgusPaintNet.EdgeDetection.dll ArgusPaintNet.Shared, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program 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Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\BrushFactory.dll CalliColour, Version=1.0.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\CalliColour.dll CellTexture, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\CellTexture.dll ClipDisplaceAA, Version=1.2.4.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\ClipDisplaceAA.dll ClipminusBeta, Version=1.0.5119.38162, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\ClipminusBeta.dll ClipWarp, Version=1.0.9.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\ClipWarp.dll ClipWarpNew, Version=1.0.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\ClipWarpNew.dll Cobweb, Version=1.0.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\Cobweb.dll CodeLab, Version=2.18.6132.18680, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program 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Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\DistortingMirror.dll DistortThis, Version=2.6.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\DistortThis.dll DotMatrix, Version=1.0.6178.27733, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\DotMatrix.dll Droste, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\droste.dll Dryad, Version=1.0.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\Dryad.dll DryadMine19_08_2016, Version=1.0.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\DryadMine19_08_2016.dll EarthsAndGreys, Version=1.0.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\EarthsAndGreys.dll EdgeExpander, Version=1.0.5863.38192, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\EdgeExpander.dll EdgeShader2, Version=1.0.7.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\EdgeShader2.dll EdgeShader5, Version=1.0.7.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\EdgeShader5.dll EdgeShaderMJW, Version=1.1.5840.39308, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\EdgeShaderMJW.dll EdHarvey.Effects, Version=4.0.5120.42730, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\EdHarvey.Effects.dll EERTRGeoscope, Version=1.0.5688.39330, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\EERTRGeoscope.dll EquiTriangle, Version=1.0.4939.2001, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\EquiTriangle.dll Facet, Version=1.0.3.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\Facet.dll Film, Version=4.0.4642.26607, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\NEWpdn\Effects\Film.dll Fisheye, Version=2.2.5533.12794, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program 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version=10.0.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\NTASN1.dll, version=10.0.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igdusc64.dll, version=10.18.15.4279 C:\Windows\System32\uiautomationcore.dll, version=7.2.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) C:\Windows\System32\USERENV.dll, version=10.0.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sxs.dll, version=10.0.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) C:\WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v4.0.30319_64\Accessibility\0504dfaa2ce6dce9c49a0862a15a18bd\Accessibility.ni.dll, version=4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2 C:\Windows\System32\OLEACC.dll, version=7.2.14393.1066 (rs1_release_sec.170327-1835) C:\WINDOWS\system32\explorerframe.dll, version=10.0.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) C:\WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v4.0.30319_64\System.Design\f091e36cbdfc650e6745e171437b683e\System.Design.ni.dll, version=4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\edputil.dll, version=10.0.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\clrcompression.dll, version=4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2 C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\diasymreader.dll, version=14.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2 C:\WINDOWS\System32\SetupApi.dll, version=10.0.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DEVOBJ.dll, version=10.0.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) C:\WINDOWS\System32\WINTRUST.dll, version=10.0.14393.953 (rs1_release_inmarket.170303-1614) C:\WINDOWS\System32\psapi.dll, version=10.0.14393.0 (rs1_release.160715-1616) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. 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Rick Brewster Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 With which image(s) ? That crash with TextBox is the other thing I'm trying to reproduce Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Oh nevermind, I got it Good catch, thanks (for my reference: it's the image that was referred to earlier, ) Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Okay I think I have a fix, but I need help from y'all to verify it. Install this build of paint.net: https://www.getpaint.net/files/zip/test/paint.net.4.16.6315.33981.install.zip (alternately, here's a "portable" ZIP which should work if you already have paint.net installed: https://www.getpaint.net/files/zip/test/paint.net.4.16.6315.33981.portable.zip ) And then try to redo the steps that cause 4.0.15 to crash or hang or whatever. It works for me now... If it works for others then I'll push out an update asap. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 beta 4.16.6315.33981 Firefox copy image (same image as before) File/new is fine, creates 800 * 600 image as expected.(It previously seized up at this point). Unfortunately Edit/Paste or Edit/Paste into new layer still caused a 'not responding' hang. Didn't seem to be any C.P.U. usage. Edge copy File/New = fine. Edit/Paste fine. No crashes or hangs. Chrome copy image File/New = fine Edit/Paste fine. No crashes or hangs. Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. Diabolical Drawings ................Real Paintings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I can't get the hang to repro, but at least the crash is fixed. Have you installed the Creators Update for Win10 yet? Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Quote Have you installed the Creators Update for Win10 yet? No not yet. Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. Diabolical Drawings ................Real Paintings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDavid Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Ill take the plunge into this new app Creators Update. I see you keep asking that question Rick. Anything specific you would like me to test before I install it? Do you have it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I just installed the Creators Edition (that is, Win10 Version 1703) on my main system. There are always some low-level changes and fixes that they don't advertise. I just noticed they fixed a bunch of systemic flickering (or at least uninitialized painting) that has affected all Windows-based UI for decades, interestingly enough. For a taste, open up the Settings dialog in paint.net and go to Tools. Then, play around with resizing the window. You'll see some funky visual glitches on previous versions of Windows, but in Win10 v1703 it's just gone. They fixed "the L" ... finally. In particularly, IRON67 said above: Same behaviour in Windows 7, 64bit, also by clicking the menu-icon for New Image, but I can kill the PaintDotNet.exe process in task-manager. Edit: After running some Windows-Updates including Security- and Quality Rollup for .Net-Framework (KB4014981) all is fine now. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Okay I've released 4.0.16 which will fix the crashing and stop the bleeding. This is affecting a lot of people judging by the crash logs in my inbox. We'll have to keep digging to figure out the hanging issue and whether it's something specific to your system(s), OS versions/updates, or something else. 1 Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Quote We'll have to keep digging to figure out the hanging issue and whether it's something specific to your system(s), OS versions/updates, or something else. No problem - not urgent for me. I think it is closely related to the problem here? Not Enough Memory Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. Diabolical Drawings ................Real Paintings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paltr Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Hi! Steps to reproduce: 1. Open this link in Firefox browser under Win 10 2. Press mouse right button on the image and press Copy Image in opened context menu 3. Go into Paint.NET and press File->Create and press OK. Sometimes the application hangs out in this step, but sometimes it's reqquired to proceed the next step 4. Press Ctrl+V to insert the image from clipboard I believe this will help you to reproduce the bug. And I want to say big "thank you" for the great product! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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