ok, defenetly everything's ok (curves+ & gradient mapping dont crash me anymore) & ok, i never oficial or directly blamed pyro & always maked know how pc naif i am & probably all my problems were bc i dont understand a dime of pc stuff (wasnt this explicit enought? was it too subtil?) watever; ok, now i know i cant select & copy all a package items from winrar to effects folder -if u do = the items go to under the staging folder & bc only yesterday i downloaded my 2nd package pluggin (boltbait's package) i saw there in a very clear way that i must save the package already in paint.net effects folder & its in there (inside there) where i must unzip the package..& sorry,dunno if its bc mine its a W7 home premium, when it comes to save or keep anything we download, he gives me a "automatic" location, i simply say yes & then i try to find what location was that one & from there i open the zip with winrar & from winrar i drag the items to the paint.net effects folder (why am i type this? in case anything is wrong or overrated, maybe someone might have the gently of tip-clear me about this...so simply steps for u all but not for someone with only about 1 week pc use;) TYVM Pyrochild for your awesome pluggins & tyvm all u this pluggins creators: you r a bloody magicians:) ps:ok, i shouldnt had put the issue in a kinda personal way & instead say..«the pyro pluggins»... i shoulda had say: «the package pluggins»...no matter the prob was the select & copy all at once from winR to effect folder (the way i did) while when its just 1 item in the zip i simply drag(not even copy)..but ok, i understand how puting pyro name mixed with this my problem can "kinda difamate" his name, so me flip reverse to true version & ohmy, everyone, dont hesitate a second, get the pyrochild package imediatly, cause be sure: thats the good stuff, the real one good stuff (amoung with some others almost mytical paint.net pluggins magicians)!!! ok, sorry the lick thing or, simply, publicity...lets go back to work & period:)