Altodave

Thanks, that was it.. just copying the files to Windows/fonts didn't do it, had to delete them and and reinstall using the fonts program before Paint would see them (and I did restart PdN after installing the first time:) -- thanks guys!

I've looked all over for how to install fonts but not found anything.. it seemed obvious, download a font from dafont.com, install into Windows/fonts (using XP here), and the PdN font manager sees the new fonts but they're not in the font choice dropdown within PdN for me to use... what did I miss? please? Apologies for having trouble such a simple thing and thank you for any tips on adding fonts.. this machine has hardly any thank you! Dave