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You should as they make there selfs rich from your hard labour. It like working for someone and you do all the work but the guy next to you takes the credit and does notthing. Then when pay day comes around you get fired and the guy next to you gets your pay check along with his own . I understand some of the reasons Rick got rid of it. One is people ripping him off, the other is people looking for support and get mad when he tells them there is no support. I don't think Rick ever did really support the Source Code, I believe he even used to take any comments / documentation out of it before uploading it to the site. Yes it sad that it no longer here. I though it was a good thing for people making plugins and add on's more then anything. But I guess thats limited to people who got old code or are members of the private forums here. As for people selling Paint.NET. I see them all over eBay and there selling the new version. They don't need the Source Code as I see them selling download links for the exe. By the way I do Java programming as well but I never did any for cell phones. Does the Java on phones be the same or is it another version for cell phones only with less classes or new classes ?, Can you program like you would for a Java program or would it have to be done like a Java applet ? I like to know as I am working on a Rcon tool that I like to support on many OS, and devices. It was a couple of years ago, but I used Netbeans to develop in J2ME - java for mobile edition. Think the M is for mobile. There's j2se for server and j2ee for enterprise. J2me was a slightly older version of java. I think it was v1.3 where elsewhere java was up to v1.5. Also, that's just a language thing - you also have to be aware of which device you're targetting - different mobiles/pdas have different support for hardware like 3d, sprites, memory etc. And there's limited support for floating point maths - you have to use integers. All this is from memory but I think it's correct. I liked Netbeans - plus it was easy to use SDKs for the various phones. A number of phone manufacturers, in addition to Sun, produced emulators so you could run your app/game on the PC to test/debug it. I would consider learning web development using Java, but I looked fairly recently and it looked like classic asp to me - sort of 5 years behind where .net is now.

I don't quite understand what you mean here. I mean put any new work written by the Mono guys for the Linux version into the Windows version. I didn't mention Microsoft at all. I've not seen anyone incensed about it, but I've not really looked for it. It's his app - he can do as he likes with it. It's really nothing to do with me. As someone who's stopped using Windows (other than for .net work) and jumped ship to Linux (better, faster, more secure, more FUN) I naturally looked for a Linux version of Paint.net, and it would seem that Paint.net not providing the source code any more makes it unlikely that there'll ever be a Linux version which matches the Windows (not Microsoft!) version. More people are going to use Paint.Net if it's available on more platforms, after all. (I wrote a game once in Java for phones, uploaded it to a site and have since seen tacky `download ring tones and wallpaper here` sites try and sell it - I don't care, as I wrote it for a laugh, to learn a little java, not for the money. If people want to try and make money out of it, why should I care?) Let's be honest - the sort of people who unknowingly download and use rip-off versions of Paint.net aren't going to know that they're using an app based on older version of the source. I'm sure if they knew there was a free alternative they'd use that instead. And more people are going to know that if it's available on more platforms. I really liked Paint.net but now I have no choice but to use one of the (many) other free graphics editors out there. That's life.

Nothing to do with Microsoft. There has been some trouble with a few people who used the source code to make a slightly altered version of Paint.NET; and tried to charge money for it. viewtopic.php?f=12&t=27233&p=223882&hilit=source+code#p223882 But by not sharing the source you're not really going to affect those people, as they'll presumably be able to continue to get the source from the Mono version of Paint.net, won't they? Are you going to be going after those guys, or leave them alone? I guess you can always put their new work into the Windows version, although it'll be something of a once way process if they can't take advantage of your work. I didn't think that was how open source was supposed to work - I'm not sure you're really punishing the right people here. Still, if Paint.Net is no longer an open source app I guess this doesn't concern you. Let's just hope people don't start trying to charge for Ubuntu and other open source apps!

I can't find the source code. The FAQ states: -- As always, the source code is available so someone else is more than welcome to do this themselves. -- Perhaps, as this is no longer true, the FAQ can be updated? What's the matter - doesn't Microsoft like Open Source?