thanks for the help guys. the pencil sketch and stylize/outline worked a treat. not sure about the curves thing, it went a bit mental when i done it lol. should keep my little girl entertained for a while (well at least until the ink runs out on my printer)
cheers
john
edit- just an after thought but is it possible to go more extreme with the effect? this is what i have so far-
i think it might be something in the shading i need to do but i lose my outlines at the same time. again thanks for any help you give