thankyou very much for the replies
to david - yes i did read the rules first but have been looking so long it didn't register, sorry.
to 007nab, thanks, I found what i wanted again by following your link, when i tried to download the dll file, well I used open because I thought it would just go where it is supposed to but windows said it didn't recognise it - sorry that was nearly 2 hours ago can't remember what the "it" was.
Again thank you very much for answering
Louey2322