Please pardon me for not getting back til now, I had to take this computer in and get it fixed.. I had two very sticky keys on it and it was driving me nuts, especially since one was the 'N'.. So, while I was there I had the tech fix the problem with paint and now my effects are showing up just fine.. As for some of them being old you're quite right.. I've been using PDN for years to create all my wallpapers and, with this latest update, it's the first time there have been any major changes to it.. I LOVE my PDN! I will go in and download BoltBaits plug-ins and any new ones I see that might add some more great effects.. I want to thank you all so much for you're help and am so happy you are here to give me advice when I need it... When I tell people that my artwork, such as this one, was created entirely in PDN and not in some expensive program like PSP they can't believe it, but every single one of my PC Wallpapers was done in PDN with no other program necessary.. I hope this program is never changed to the point it becomes like PSP, which to my mind, is way too complicated and hardly user friendly.. Thanks again!