Fisherman's Friend

I really don't want a plugin folder full of phoning home Dlls. The idea of auto-update-plugins may be interesting, especially for the developer, but as a user I reject it. Besides the fact that it annoys me, it opens a new realm for bugs, freezes and crashes. I suggest to drop the update-idea and -system, and I also request other plugin authors to not adapt the idea. And as a side note, some pictures to show the effects in the first post would be nice and of use.

Would it be possible to change the plugin so that it doesn't discard all the metadata? The point here is: The best use for HD Photo is saving edited Digital Camera pictures. Paint.NET includes a lot of effects for improving the quality of your photos, especially via plugins. Now, if I edit my photos I don't want to loose any quality when saving them. With JPEG, I usually save it in a way that the filesize becomes larger than the original, and still I'm not sure wether I loose quality. With HD Photo, I think, you can keep the quaility and even reduce the filesize. Also, It has a lossless mode. But when I use the plugin, all metadata is lost. :? As Windows 7 supports HDP even more than Vista (for example in Media Center) I ask for an update and also encourage you to include it in Paint.NET. In 7 (and in Vista) it's supported in Windows Explorer, Windows (Live) Photo Gallery, Windows Photo Viewer, Media Center (7) and all WIC applications.

I use this plugin a lot, usually with PNGs. Sadly, there seems to be a bug. Sometimes, directly after the file is saved, the entire apllication freezes. You can't do anything, even the "X" to close Paint.NET doesn't work. Clicking the Paint.NET window results in error sounds. I always have to close Paint.NET via the Task Manager. It happens frequently, but unforseen. There is no crash log, and I also failed to see a pattern in the behaviour. I really have no clue. My system is Vista SP2, x86 Intel. I use the most recent version of Paint.NET. I don't know wether the proplem is limited to me, but I suggest all other users to save all open files in a default format (PNG for single layer, PDN for multi layer files) before you use this filetype plugin. Otherwise you may face data loss. I want to say that I'm very fond of this plugin and will continue to use it in spite of the bug. Thanks.

I assume you accidently deleted Tanel's plugin, which goes by that name. Link

May I suggest moving Polygonal Transparency to the "Object" submenu? I honestly see no use for a new submenu if it includes only one entry. The meaning of submenus should be to produce a clean user interface and to avoid an overcrowded one. We do not know if this submenu is "accepted" like Object, Tools and Color. Considering that general transparency effects rather go in "Adjustments" I see the possibility that half a year in the future this submenu will still feature only one single entry. Now that I mentioned this, I also think a "Transpareny" submenu may confuse the users. By compiling all effects into a single DLL you sadly force me at the moment to either take all of your effects or none, if I don't want the Transparency submenu - both bitter options. Major plugin contributors like Pyrochild, BoltBait, Madjik... therefore provide single DLLs for each effect. In my opinion, you should consider this choice as the best of both worlds.

It is my pleasure to confirm that the plugin seems to work properly now. At least I failed in reproducing the error shown above. Thanks for the quick fix. Just out of interest, did the old version of the plugin use the luminace or RGB based method?

Seconded. But the plugin has a major rendering issue. It happens apparently when you enlarge the image till it is shown larger than the Paint.NET window. As a consequence, the result does not replace the original, it is rendered inside the picture. Original: Plugin used in "window" picture size: Plugin used (same settings) with the picture larger than the window (in my example, I enlarged it to 100% - 1024x768 - with the window around 890x630, the following image shows the result zoomed out to display the effect): Users of Windows Vista and Windows 7 may restore the old plugin version via shadow copies ("previous versions") until a fix is provided. Note that this works only in certain editions. Interested users can use "Help and Support" for further information. Despite any problems I want to say thanks that this plugin is still maintained and updated. Sadly, I do not understand the local maximum/minimum option. The image just turns black or white..?

Eerm... Not meant as any kind of flaming, but isn't this already "built" into Paint.NET? Just save the image with high JPEG compression... :shock:

I suggest that you provide some sample images for mosaic painting in your first post - like those flowers. That will help the users, as they can play around with your plugin and get an impression how it fits their needs. And indeed, this plugin looks amazing. Thanks!

I for one do. HD Photo is at the moment the best choice when saving your file in Paint.NET - as long as you are on Vista or Seven. Combining - and improving - all the advantages of JPEG and PNG, including rich metadata, alpha and lossless mode, HD Photo does the job. One of the few things I looked forward to when I got Vista. JPEG is fail. Without options like GIMP, it produces crappy results even on "100", it has been discussed and shown on this forum. I really don't get why I should spend hours and days on artwork and then save it as ruined file in a format which is actually out of date. OK, I could save as PNG - but can I tag the file? Can I rate it? Do I even see the author? Nope, at least not outside of Photo Gallery. Now I have an OS praised for all the indexing and search stuff, but the PNGs will not show up in my "4 and 5 stars" search folder. With HD Photo, it works. For real, there is no reason why I should save in the worse file format when I have HDP. HDPs need less space while featuring better quality and more possibilities than JPEG. It's just as saving in DOC when you have access to and make use of DOCX (Word 2007). The only thing which matters is the compatibility issue, but I can convert them in seconds. And when Seven launches, many people who didn't want to upgrade from XP to Vista will move on Seven, then being able to view HDPs. Considering it is becoming JPEG XR, I guess all the rest is just a matter of years. Nice job on HD Photo, Microsoft. As a side note: You do not need SP3 in XP for HD Photo. You only need WIC, which is just ONE MB (see yourself) and is installed when you get Windows Live Photo Gallery with all it's features including panorama stitching and people tags. WL Gallery itself opens HDP, being WIC based.

~2500X1900 px, 150dpi.

I recently edited a bunch of digicam photos and encountered one memory error after another using this plugin. I have an x86 PC with 3 GB RAM and my pagefile can expand to at least 6 (?) GB. No other plugin caused problems, it was only this one, and it did it frequently and rather randomly. So I guess there's a mistake in the code. This is one of the exception logs Paint.NET showed when the plugin crashed: Datei: C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\IncreaseLocalContrast.dll Effektname: MeeSoft.Paint.Net.Plugins.IncreaseLocalContrast.EffectPlugin Vollständige Fehlermeldung: PaintDotNet.WorkerThreadException: Worker thread threw an exception ---> System.OutOfMemoryException: Eine Ausnahme vom Typ "System.OutOfMemoryException" wurde ausgelöst. bei MeeSoft.Mathematics.LinearAlgebra.MatrixFloat32.New(Int32 nRows, Int32 nCols) bei MeeSoft.ImageProcessing.PlanarBitmap.New(Int32 width, Int32 height, Int32 planeCount, Double gamma) bei MeeSoft.ImageProcessing.PlanarBitmap.Assign(Bitmap source) bei MeeSoft.Paint.Net.Plugins.IncreaseLocalContrast.EffectOperation.CheckParams(EffectPluginConfigToken param, Bitmap srcBitmap) bei MeeSoft.Paint.Net.Plugins.IncreaseLocalContrast.EffectPlugin.Render(EffectConfigToken parameters, RenderArgs dstArgs, RenderArgs srcArgs, Rectangle[] rois, Int32 startIndex, Int32 length) bei PaintDotNet.Effects.Effect.Render(EffectConfigToken parameters, RenderArgs dstArgs, RenderArgs srcArgs, Rectangle[] rois) bei PaintDotNet.Effects.BackgroundEffectRenderer.ThreadFunction() --- Ende der internen Ausnahmestapelüberwachung --- bei PaintDotNet.Effects.BackgroundEffectRenderer.Join() bei PaintDotNet.Effects.BackgroundEffectRenderer.Abort() bei PaintDotNet.Menus.EffectMenuBase.DoEffect(Effect effect, EffectConfigToken token, PdnRegion selectedRegion, PdnRegion regionToRender, Surface originalSurface, Exception& exception) In most of the cases the crash occured when pressing the OK button, during the preview it was OK. Also, it was only a "little" error, only the plugin "died", Paint.NET continued to run. It works fine with smaller pics.

Thanks. I'd also ask you to add the publishing date of the current version to your first post, like 2009/03/23, instead of just a version number like 1.0.1.1. It's pretty hard to say if something has changed if it's like 1.0.1.0 to 1.0.1.1. Especially imagine someone has holidays, comes back and cannot tell wether something has changed or not. If you see that the current version was published on, say 09/03/30, you won't have to guess.

I'm afraid there's a rendering bug. I used it on a 1280x8xx image and aftwerwards it looked like it was splited in parts and put together in a wrong way. Apparently it happens when your zoom is set to 100%. The bug was reproduceable, but sometimes you need to look closely.

Could anyone please write the correct string for the Photo submenu? I mean the localizeable version.

I scanned a page with 1200 dpi. PDN told me it wouldn't have enough memory to load the image. Now the problem is that I scanned the same page before. So the page was visible in the program and I do not know wether it was the earlier (600 dpi) version or if the new version was loaded despite the memory message, what may caused the crash. I had no chance too look on the resolution in the info bar - it crashed immediately. I had RARELY issues with scanning before; to be precise I scanned an image, but it was not appearing in Paint.NET. That did not occure more than five times in the last half year, and I do scan a lot of stuff via PDN. As a side note, I suggest that Paint.NET creates the changelog both in the localized version and in English - if that's possible. In my case, I am totally unable to translate the error message - the .Net-Expressions are not in the dictionary and translation software wouldn't give you anything useful. I did not shorten my plugin list, as I can only assume what may made PDN crash. Thanks for your hard wark on making this application better and better. ################################# Application version: Paint.NET v3.36 (Final Release Build 3.36.3158.38068) Time of crash: 07.03.2009 01:33:10 Application uptime: 00:14:30.1586000 OS Version: 6.0.6001.65536 Service Pack 1 Workstation x86 .NET version: CLR 2.0.50727.3074 x86, FX 2.0 2.0SP1 2.0SP2 3.0 3.0SP1 3.0SP2 3.5 3.5SP1 3.5SP1_Client Processor: 2x "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz" @ ~1828MHz (DEP, SSE, SSE2, SSE3) Physical memory: 3069 MB UI DPI: 96,00 dpi (1,00x scale) Tablet PC: no Updates: false, err Locale: pdnr.c: de, hklm: de, hkcu: DE, cc: de-DE, cuic: de Features log: PopulateFonts(), UpdatesState(StartupState), SetTool(PaintDotNet.Tools.PanTool), UpdatesState(ReadyToCheckState), HM(NullHistoryMemento), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.ToolsForm), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.ColorsForm), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.HistoryForm), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.LayerForm), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.MainForm), Menu.File, 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Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Polygones.dll PowerStretch20Beta, Version=1.9.3045.14671, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\PowerStretch.dll Psychedelic, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Psychedelic.dll pyrochild.effects.common, Version=2.5.3298.19513, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\pyrochild.effects.common.dll Radialcolors, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Radialcolors.dll RainbowTwist, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\RainbowTwist.dll Random Effect, Version=1.0.3106.38960, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Random Effect.dll RandLines, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Random lines.dll RandMaze1, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Random Maze1.dll RandMaze2, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Random Maze2.dll Random Shape Fill, Version=1.0.3106.41337, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Random Shape Fill.dll RedEyeQuickFix, Version=1.1.3161.39688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\RedEyeQuickFix.dll ReflectionFlat, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\ReflectionFlat.dll Rosaces, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Rosaces.dll ScriptLab, Version=2.4.3284.31448, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\ScriptLab.dll SeamlessTextureMaker, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\SeamlessTextureMaker.dll SelectionTools, Version=1.1.3182.28742, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\SelectionTools.dll ShadowEffect, Version=1.1.0.43197, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\ShadowEffect.dll ShadowHighlight, Version=2.2.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\ShadowHighlight.dll Shape3D, Version=1.2.6.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Shape3D.dll Sharpen+, Version=3.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Sharpen+.dll silhouetteplus, Version=1.1.3131.17586, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\silhouetteplus.dll SineCurve, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Sine Curve.dll SinWaves, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\SinWaves.dll Smudge, Version=2.2.3298.1545, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Smudge.dll Sparkle, Version=2.6.0.78, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Sparkle_Glitter.dll Sparkle_Stars, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Sparkle_Stars.dll Specular, Version=1.0.3254.27778, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Specular.dll Spiral, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Spiral.dll SpiroGraph, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\SpiroGraph.dll SpiroShapes, Version=1.4.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\SpiroShapes.dll Splashes, Version=1.1.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Splashes.dll Splatter, Version=1.5.3284.30867, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Splatter.dll Stars, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Stars.dll Steganography, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Steganography.dll Stitch, Version=1.0.3106.38769, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Stitch.dll TargetPanelV10, Version=1.0.3116.21780, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\TargetPanelV10.dll Texture, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Texture.dll Tiles, Version=1.1.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Tiles.dll TJacksonEffects, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\TJacksonEffects.dll Transparency, Version=1.1.3182.29244, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Transparency.dll TreeGen, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\TreeGen.dll TubeOblique, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\TubeOblique.dll TwistZ, Version=1.1.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\TwistZ.dll UnsharpMask, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\UnsharpMask.dll Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects.Blurs, Version=3.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects.Blurs.dll Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects, Version=3.2.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects.dll Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects.DropShadow, Version=3.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects.DropShadow.dll Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects.Duotones, Version=3.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects.Duotones.dll Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects.FadeEdge, Version=3.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Vandermotten.PaintDotNetEffects.FadeEdge.dll Vibrato, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Vibrato.dll WaterReflection, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\WaterReflection.dll Waves, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Waves.dll WetFloor, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\WetFloor.dll XYCoords, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\XYCoords.dll ZoomBlurDeluxe, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\ZoomBlurDeluxe.dll System.Design, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll Microsoft.VisualBasic, Version=8.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\Microsoft.VisualBasic\8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll mscorlib.resources, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=de, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorlib.dll Interop.WIA, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Interop.WIA.dll Exception details: System.NullReferenceException: Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt. [i have no clue how to translate this. Word-by-word gives sth. like "The object specification was not set to an object instance".] bei [read] PaintDotNet.Actions.CloseAllWorkspacesAction.PerformAction(AppWorkspace appWorkspace) bei PaintDotNet.AppWorkspace.PerformAction(AppWorkspaceAction performMe) bei PaintDotNet.MainForm.OnClosing(CancelEventArgs e) bei System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmClose(Message& m) bei System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m) bei PaintDotNet.PdnBaseForm.OurWndProc(Message& m) bei PaintDotNet.PdnBaseForm.WndProc(Message& m) bei PaintDotNet.MainForm.WndProc(Message& m) bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) bei System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Simon Brown, could you please just stop to reply to threads which are against the board rules? You always, always do it, effectively creating the impression that one gets what he wants, regardless if using the forum in the proper way. Thanks. Thread reported.

I have no idea if this is a bug or a limitation of Paint.NET. However, in this case the program crashed so I lost any changes I made (I could not save them due to the nature of the bug). I reported before that PDN saves large files improperly in PNG/BMP 8bit Mode, but you could save them in 24 bit. This time saving was entirely impossible (I tested it), so I decided to report this - at least as a warning. I took the same image and tried it with other programmes and had no issues. I have to stress I have 3 GB of RAM but I'm aware Vista takes a big part and my Graphics Device may also take something. Regardless, I was able to create the file with Inkscape and work with it in GIMP. The crash log (I shorted the effects list, it's not important for this topic I would say, especially cause I did not use any effect): Application version: Paint.NET v3.36 (Final Release Build 3.36.3158.38068) Time of crash: 04.01.2009 22:30:11 Application uptime: 00:01:48.4044000 OS Version: 6.0.6001.65536 Service Pack 1 Workstation x86 .NET version: CLR 2.0.50727.3074 x86, FX 2.0 2.0SP1 2.0SP2 3.0 3.0SP1 3.0SP2 3.5 3.5SP1 3.5SP1_Client Processor: 2x "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz" @ ~1828MHz (DEP, SSE, SSE2, SSE3) Physical memory: 3069 MB UI DPI: 96,00 dpi (1,00x scale) Tablet PC: no Updates: false, err Locale: pdnr.c: de, hklm: de, hkcu: DE, cc: de-DE, cuic: de Features log: UpdatesState(StartupState), UpdatesState(ReadyToCheckState), PopulateFonts(), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.SplashForm), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.ToolsForm), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.ColorsForm), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.HistoryForm), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.LayerForm), ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.MainForm), Load(PaintDotNet.PngFileType), SetTool(PaintDotNet.Tools.PanTool), HM(NullHistoryMemento), ViewConfigStrip(ZoomIn), SetTool(PaintDotNet.Tools.PaintBrushTool), HM(BitmapHistoryMemento), CommonActionsStrip(Undo), DWAction(HistoryUndoAction), SetTool(PaintDotNet.Tools.LineTool), HM(CompoundHistoryMemento), ToolConfigStrip(penEndCapSplitButton), ToolConfigStrip(penStartCapSplitButton), SetTool(PaintDotNet.Tools.EraserTool), Menu.File, Save, ShowDialog(PaintDotNet.SaveConfigDialog), Save(PaintDotNet.PngFileType) Loaded assemblies: mscorlib, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorlib.dll PaintDotNet, Version=3.36.3158.38068, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\PaintDotNet.exe System.Windows.Forms, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll System, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.dll System.Drawing, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Drawing\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Drawing.dll PaintDotNet.Core, Version=3.36.3158.38063, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\PaintDotNet.Core.dll PaintDotNet.Base, Version=3.36.3158.38062, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\PaintDotNet.Base.dll PaintDotNet.SystemLayer, Version=3.36.3158.38062, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.dll PaintDotNet.Resources, Version=3.36.3158.38063, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\PaintDotNet.Resources.dll PaintDotNet.Data, Version=3.36.3158.38064, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\PaintDotNet.Data.dll System.Windows.Forms.resources, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=de, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms.resources\2.0.0.0_de_b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.resources.dll PaintDotNet.Effects, Version=3.36.3158.38065, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\PaintDotNet.Effects.dll Alias, Version=2.0.3167.14578, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\Alias.dll AlignPlugin, Version=1.5.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Effects\AlignPlugin.dll (...) Files\Paint.NET\Effects\ZoomBlurDeluxe.dll System.Design, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll Microsoft.VisualBasic, Version=8.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\Microsoft.VisualBasic\8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll mscorlib.resources, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=de, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorlib.dll System.Xml, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Xml\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Xml.dll AsciiArtFileType, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\AsciiArtFileType.dll AviFile, Version=1.0.2920.35272, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\AviFile.dll AVIImport, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\AVIImport.dll BMP32 Paint.NET FileType, Version=2.4.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\BMP32.dll DdsFileType, Version=1.11.3158.38065, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\DdsFileType.dll HDPhoto, Version=0.4.2904.33958, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\HDPhoto.dll IcoCur, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\IcoCur.dll JPEG 2000, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\JPEG 2000 x86.dll OptiPngFileType, Version=8.11.30.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\OptiPngFileType.dll PcxFileType, Version=0.9.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\PcxFileType.dll PhotoShop, Version=1.0.1.14046, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\PhotoShop.dll RawReader, Version=0.9.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null @ C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\FileTypes\RawReader.dll msvcm80, Version=8.0.50727.3053, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.3053_none_d08d7bba442a9b36\msvcm80.dll Accessibility, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a @ C:\Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\Accessibility\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\Accessibility.dll Exception details: System.OutOfMemoryException: CreateDIBSection returned NULL (8) while attempting to allocate 10000x7208 bitmap bei PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Memory.AllocateBitmap(Int32 width, Int32 height, IntPtr& handle) bei PaintDotNet.MemoryBlock.Allocate(Int32 width, Int32 height, IntPtr& handle, Boolean allowRetry) bei PaintDotNet.MemoryBlock.Allocate(Int32 width, Int32 height, IntPtr& handle, Boolean allowRetry) bei PaintDotNet.MemoryBlock..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height) bei PaintDotNet.Surface..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height) bei PaintDotNet.Surface..ctor(Size size) bei PaintDotNet.DocumentView.DocumentSetImpl(Document value) bei PaintDotNet.DocumentView.set_Document(Document value) bei PaintDotNet.SaveConfigDialog.UpdateFileSizeAndPreview(String tempFileName) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At the moment I'm not sure if you are right and both plugins really work the same. Silverhammer, I like it, but why is it in "Adjustments"? I'd rather put it in "Artistic" or "Stylize". It's definately no adjustment - like Brightness/Contrast.

I appreciate your announcement to make more effects, but I request single-effect DLLs. It's the way Pyro, BoltBait, Tanel etc. do it. It let's you choice which effects you want. Just consider somebody who uses PDN only for small photo touch-ups and does not want crowded menus. He would take CH/S Adjustment, but not the other stuff. If you zip them, users would not have to download every single file, and - saying someone wants all effects - copying five DLLs is as much work as copying one single DLL. If I'm correct, the PDN Installer itself is zipped, so there should be no problems with the users. However, thank you very much, Mirror is really cool and well done.

Did I missed something? The plugin names in the menus suggest I have "BETA" versions. I downloaded them today, so what's going on..? Pertains Smudge, Scriptlab and Splatter.

I installed SP3 without problems during installation and after it - before I switched to Vista (months later). This survey will not be representative, considering how many of our 145000 members participated at the moment...

Paint.NET has severe problems with large files when it comes to save them. It happens often to me. Today I encountered it when saving a 3323 x 5656 image (600 dpi). When you set the bit depth to auto (BMP & PNG) or to 8 bit, it says "computing..." "error". If you ignore that and save the image, you get this: You can only save it as 24 bit BMP or JPEG (not lossless). 24 bit PNG gives the error (in conrast to BMP). I assumed it could be a memory problem, but I have 3 GB of RAM and a page file of 3.29 GB (not enlarged), giving me 6.3 GB of memory (again, with not enlarged page file). If you work with high quality artwork that can become nasty. Note: I did search but the stuff was about TIFF files. Because I do not want to resurrect the old one (from June, I believe) and the issue obviously does not only affect the TIFF encoder, I decided to make a new topic.

I conisder it as low priority, but the current expression for "Paint.NET Search" is "Paint.NET Suchen". I think that's a mistake. It sounds like "Search FOR Paint.NET" in English. In my opinion, the correct German phrase is "Paint.NET-Suche" (like Live Seach -> Live-Suche; Google Search -> Google-Suche). In it's current form it may confuse users (for example: "I have Paint.NET, why should I search for it?"), "Paint.NET-Suche" however makes clear that the link leads you to a search ENGINE.

The plugin does not add the "Creation Software" Tag to the saved file. If this is gonna to be integrated you might "fix" it.