Rick Brewster

Too Mac-ish for your tastes? That doesn't mean anything to me. You have to explain what you mean by that. I take a lot of influence from Apple, they do some very good user interfaces. As for the overflow, I'm still working out a design.

No, someone was programming a lot. I don't program when I'm tired.

Fixes for both of these will be in the next build.

Ack, true!

Interesting, good find!

Please take pictures like that into private discussion. I don't think that picture falls under the "not safe for work" category but I think it's just risque enough to not post in this public forum. Thanks.

Just make sure your forum settings are set to send you e-mails when a subscribed thread is updated. Then when Evan posts an update right here, you'll get an e-mail.

My psychic powers are pointing towards the Plugins section of the forum.

It's late so I don't have a decision or answer for you yet but I've filed a bug and assigned it to the 3.0 milestone at least.

I'm actually thinking to postpone this to the release after v3.0. But here's why: for me to add an OpenConfigDialog, we would need to have some of the built-in file types making use of it. Otherwise it becomes a real walking-on-eggshells situation where we have code that isn't even used by default and it's hard to test it very much. Otherwise the only person who'd be testing it would be ... well ... yourself and me. But, for the release after 3.0, I'm looking to make use of WIC (Windows Imaging Codecs, if I remember correctly). It's a component that's new for Vista that exposes a rich, pluggable codec interface. This will enable us to add RAW support, something that really needs an "open config" (Maybe i'll call it "import config" or something).

This is true. There was a overflow button but it sucked and I hated it and I killed it and then it died. I rewrote that whole part of the UI anyway, I'm just not done yet

Oh sorry, I wasn't trying to imply naievety (sp?). Just pointing it out I tend to agree that, visually, the general idea looks like it would work.

Redistributable. ... or just download the 'full' installer linked on the main website, http://www.getpaint.net . That handles it all for you in 1 download instead of having to figure out what else you need to get in order to install Paint.NET.

Hmm. Easier said than done. That area of a dialog box is called the "non-client" area and if you want to stay sane you just let Windows handle all the drawing. Might be worth considering for a future version. I'll file a tracking bug at least.

You might shade her right eye a little blue, too ("her" right eye = "our" left).

The image you're trying to work with is too big. Also, where did you download 2.6? That's been obsolete for months.

Yup, just a bug. Remember how I said there are bugs and fit&finish work still left to do I figured I'd get what I'd already finished out there so you guys could throw it around a bit. By design. That's just the way the history works -- and has always worked. We track everything (evil laughter goes here). Interesting idea, I'm just not sure how I'd make the availability of this functionality apparent to the user. Maybe an F9 shortcut to hide all tool windows or something.

Actually I don't believe the solution is to add more buttons and stuff to the UI -- that just makes more stuff to click on to get anything done, and just adds to the confusion. Instead I think the solution should be to implement better visual and textual cues (not clues, that's not a typo). For instance, when you uncheck an image I can grey it out and overlay an icon that clearly indicates to the user that they have marked that image to be discarded. The red asterisk "disclaimer text" is also a good idea to show once 1 or more items are unchecked. Aatwo, the 2nd and 3rd mock screenshots you show don't work for me. They just add more buttons and options to choose from and get in the user's way. Barkbark00, I have absolutely no idea what the mock screenshot you posted is supposed to do. It makes no sense to me.

"Fill" is exactly the same as "Fill style" was in 2.xx. I just dropped the word "style".

So what you want is a 4th button that's basically "Save the checked images, then close those checked images, but leave the unchecked images open and don't quit" ? I think something like a File->Close Unsaved option would work better. You would hit Cancel on this one, then do File->Close Unsaved. Otherwise this dialog just gets too cluttered, and you'd have two "Save" options and it would be confusing. And dang those typos!

Just another screenshot. Paint.NET v3.0 will start making use of what are known as "task dialogs" and "command links." Basically instead of having simple, horrible dialogs that ask complicated questions while being limited to OK/Cancel or Yes/No/Cancel responses, we have these larger buttons with more descriptive text. In this screenshot the mouse pointer is hovering over the 'save' button (aka command link, but the mouse pointer is not in the screenshot): Edit: Yeah yeah there's a typo, thanks aatwo 8) (Once again, that's a bunch of art from http://larenn.deviantart.com) Oh, and this, some options for the color picker.

Moved to General Discussion The Tutorials forum is reserved for tutorial publishing only. This is clearly stated at the top of the forum.

That's an interesting idea.

Yaeh that's pretty good. Maybe a tutorial is in order ... hint hint

Right but aatwo also has a point in that he was confused. Seriously -- the UI is meant to be easy and obvious, so if there's a legitimate concern here then now is the absolute best time to figure out ways to improve it.