So there was this one plugin pack that I used to use the hell out of, but for the life of me I can't find it or remember what it is. What I do remember is that it had my favorite outlining tool (it controlled the width and softness by up to ten levels), and a tool that would turn the image into a black and white pencil drawing, There were others, but it's been so long since I had a laptop and been able to use them that I forget most of them. At any rate, does this sound familiar to anyone? I know that these two were in a pack together, and no it wasn't the pyrochild one.