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  1. I've tried installing it, I had huge difficulty with it which is why I went to the other forum and posted some parts of it here. I managed to at least renable it under windows features, but when I try to install a newer version it says the latest version is already installed.
  2. I managed to install an older version of paint net and it worked fine, but when I try to update it it does the same thing as if i were trying to install it new.
  3. Although, it did say something about optional updates, but I wasn't sure if I should install those or not.
  4. I scanned for updates in the settings and restarted a few times, there are no new updates
  5. I don't know, I just downloaded windows 8.1 from the windows website and made it into a bootable usb. My computer has updated on its own a few times since I've had it though
  6. Most likely. Thanks for the help, In the meantime I might post another thread on the other website and try to solve my troubleshooting problems.
  7. I forgot to mention, but I tried that already and it wouldn't run, I seem to have a problem with my troubleshooter crashing.
  8. I'll copy and paste some of the info from the other site then, if that's okay. My operating system is Windows 8.1 and I'm trying to install the classic version. Members 47 posts ONLINE Local time:01:14 PM Posted Yesterday, 01:53 PM From Other Site: Not sure if I should post this here, but I've posted issues here before and the support was excellent, so i thought I would try again. I posted this on the microsoft community forums as well but answers are scarce there and usually unhelpful. So, I recently purchased a used laptop. (It should be noted that when I got this laptop the resellers had upgraded it to windows 10, which the computer couldn't properly handle, so I wiped the hard drive and installed a fresh version of Windows 8.1.) I noticed that many of my programs were having issues installing, most of them saying they require the latest version of Microsoft.NET Framework. So, I downloaded Microsoft Framework 4.7.2, and tried to install it. At first, the installation failed and had an error message. I don't remember what it said, unfortunately. Then it started saying it was already installed. I checked my windows features to see if this was true, and it didn't appear in the features, or in the place where you uninstall programs. However, I did have an older version of Microsoft Framework, I think 3.0, but I'm not sure. I thought maybe the failed installations had left residual files behind causing my computer to think it was already installed. So after that I tried deleting the Microsoft.Net folder like an idiot, which just made things worse. At that point I started googling fixes, and found a tool that completely removes all versions of Microsoft.Net Framework from your system. I ran it and removed everything, but the installer still says the framework is already installed, and I am still getting errors from programs saying they need the framework to run. This is the tool I used to cleanup: https://www.raymond.cc/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=2599 Edit: I ran a setup verifier tool for microsoft net (this one:https://www.raymond.cc/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=3006) and collected logs, and I also ran the official net repair tool and collected logs. The logs are attached. (I'll send the logs on here as well if you need them.) So basically I worked through with the helper on the other website and I believe I fixed the microsoft framework by running an sfc scan thing, and then running another command to repair the corruption. After that the paint installer wasnt crashing immediately, but still wasn't working. (Read Above) Sorry if this is hard to understand, there's a lot of information I had to write and I'm horrible at explaining things.
  9. Previous thread I posted to bleepingcomputer.com when trying to resolve my microsoft.net framework issues that explains things in more detail: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/691667/issues-with-microsoft-net-framework/ Basically, my Installer finishes extracting the files, attempts to load the next segment for a few seconds and then crashes. (A classic "this program has stopped working error message appears) Before I did what's listed in the above post, the installer would just completely stop working after the extraction, and nothing would happen at all. All the other information that I'm too lazy to type out is in the above post.