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First, let me say that update 4.01 appears to have solved (in my case, at least) several 4.0 problems in one stroke. Great! Apart from some plugins that used to work in 3.5.11 but that I still cannot get working in 4.01 (they will not even be listed in the menu), I'm left with one small bug in version 4. In 3.5, the Move Selected Pixels tool had two ways of working. (A) default: you drag the selection to another position, and this leaves a "hole" at the original position. (B) alternative: you drag the selection to another position while pressing the Ctrl key, and this also leaves the selected pixels at the original position in place (so you're not left with a "hole"). In 4.01, method B no longer works. Dragging a selection while pressing the Ctrl key has the same effect as dragging a selection without pressing a key: in both cases, dragging creates a "hole" at the original position. Imho it would be great if the convenient Ctrl key option could be restored. May I thank the PDN people for considering this?

Dear Rick, thanks for giving this your attention (btw my memory remark was not commenting to you but to the previous poster). The crashing problem has been solved now, though there still appears to be a strange HA problem. I downloaded the correct Nvidia driver installer software and just to make sure, I had it make a clean install instead of an upgrade. Your idea was right: PDN 4.0 now starts without crashing! But, when hardware acceleration is used, there still is a weird problem: trail-like artifacts. Like, when you select the paint brush and then just move the crosshair pointer across the screen (without pressing the left mouse button to actually draw) it will leave a kind of irregularly dotted black trail everywhere you move the pointer, both within the picture and outside the image canvas. This weird behavior does not happen if I switch off PDN hardware acceleration in the registry. The Nvidia control panel has an option that lets the user switch all kinds of functions on or off, individually for any specific program or process. Do I need to adjust some of the default settings specifically for PDN, to make hardware acceleration work properly? Thanks once again! Henk

Thanks people for trying to help! But... (1) I cannot believe something is wrong with my laptop's memory. As said before, I ran the memtest tool which found no errors. Besides, if something was wrong with my RAM, wouldn't this cause problems with other memory-intensive programs as well? All other software runs without any problem of this kind... (2) I successfully merged the registry line that switches off hardware acceleration. Unfortunately, after having made this change, PDN 4.0 still keeps crashing in exactly the same way, right after starting it up, with its window frames already visible but before the windows have been filled in. So, I'm afraid the problem has not been solved.

Deafening silence so far... I wonder if someone would be able to say if the above crash log does suggest any cause of why PDN 4.0 keeps crashing?

Below is the latest crash report, identical crash. Before replicating the crash I made a new, clean install of PDN 4.0 instead of upgrading 3.5, so this eliminates any potential problems with old plugins that 3.5 had in its Effects directory. I also checked the laptop for .NET 4.5 (is installed) and just to make sure, I let Microsoft's own .NET Framework Repair Tool make a full run. To eliminate any other factors, I quit nearly all other software that ran in the background before starting PDN. As for the dual-graphics-card setup, the laptop was on AC, not on battery while replicating the crash, so it was using the Nvidia. From the crash report it looks like PDN in this situation saw just the Nvidia, no Intel graphics, so probably the dual-graphics-card thing is not the issue like I thought first. The log: This text file was created because paint.net crashed. Please e-mail this to crashlog4@getpaint.net so we can diagnose and fix the problem. Application version: paint.net 4.0 (Final 4.0.5288.36565) Time of crash: 29/06/2014 10:52:24 Application uptime: 00:00:09.9840176 Application state: Running Working set: 60,012 KiB Install directory: C:\Program Files\Paint.NET Current directory: C:\Program Files\Paint.NET OS Version: 6.1.7601.65536 Service Pack 1 Workstation x86 .NET version: CLR 4.0.30319.18444 x86, FX 4.0 4.5 Processor: 4x "Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz" @ ~1800MHz (DEP, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3) Physical memory: 2037 MB Hardware acceleration: True Video card: NVIDIA ION , NVIDIA ION UI animations: True UI DPI: 96.00 dpi (1.00x scale) UI theme: Aero/Aero (Aero.msstyles) Updates: False, 01/01/0001 Locale: pdnr.c: en-US, hklm: en-US, hkcu: en-US, cc: en-IE, cuic: en-US Exception details: System.AccessViolationException: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt. at PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x86.Direct2D.D2DFactory.CreateHwndRenderTarget(RenderTargetProperties renderTargetProperties, HwndRenderTargetProperties hwndRenderTargetProperties) at PaintDotNet.Direct2D.Proxies.Direct2DFactoryProxy.CreateHwndRenderTarget(RenderTargetProperties renderTargetProperties, HwndRenderTargetProperties hwndRenderTargetProperties) in D:\src\pdn\paintdotnet\src\Base\Direct2D\Proxies\Direct2DFactoryProxy.cs:line 76 at PaintDotNet.Controls.Direct2DControlHandler.RecreateRenderTarget() in D:\src\pdn\paintdotnet\src\Framework\Controls\Direct2DControlHandler.cs:line 360 at PaintDotNet.Controls.Direct2DControlHandler.RelayGdiPaintImpl(GdiPaintContext ctx) in D:\src\pdn\paintdotnet\src\Framework\Controls\Direct2DControlHandler.cs:line 399 at PaintDotNet.Controls.Direct2DControlHandler.RelayGdiPaint(GdiPaintContext ctx) in D:\src\pdn\paintdotnet\src\Framework\Controls\Direct2DControlHandler.cs:line 384 at PaintDotNet.Controls.Direct2DControl.OnGdiPaint(GdiPaintContext ctx) in D:\src\pdn\paintdotnet\src\Framework\Controls\Direct2DControl.cs:line 228 at PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.GdiPaintControl.PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.IGdiPaintHost.OnGdiPaint(GdiPaintContext ctx) in D:\src\pdn\paintdotnet\src\SystemLayer\GdiPaintControl.cs:line 133 at PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.GdiPaintHandler.OnWmPaint(Message& m) in D:\src\pdn\paintdotnet\src\SystemLayer\GdiPaintHandler.cs:line 172 at PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.GdiPaintHandler.RelayWndProc(Message& m) in D:\src\pdn\paintdotnet\src\SystemLayer\GdiPaintHandler.cs:line 222 at PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.GdiPaintControl.WndProc(Message& m) in D:\src\pdn\paintdotnet\src\SystemLayer\GdiPaintControl.cs:line 113 at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) Managed assemblies: 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Yesterday I installed PDN 4.0 on my desktop (x64) and laptop (x86), both Win7. It works great on the desktop, but not at all on the laptop. The laptop is an ASUS, 2GB RAM, with a dual graphics card built-in: low-level ASUS software will autoswitch between standard Intel for low-energy situations, and better Nvidia for graphics-intensive work. PDN 3.5.11 worked fine here. PDN 4.0 did install without problems. But every time I try to actually start PDN 4.0 on this laptop, the borders of the main PDN window and the four tool windows will appear for a split-second on screen, and then before these outlined windows are even filled in, PDN crashes right away (I mailed a report as requested). The crash reports all note PDN addressing inaccessible memory, and suggest "corrupt memory" as a possible cause. I can't believe that, afaik there's nothing wrong with the laptop's memory. Just to make sure I ran the Windows Memory Check tool -- it reports no errors at all. Nor do I have any "weird" software running that would mess up memory allocations. My own hunch is rather there's some kind of hardware acceleration error going on here, possibly caused by the laptop's dual-graphics-card setup. Problem is, if PDN 4.0 is using HA by default (even it has an option somewhere to switch that off) I cannot change that setting, because PDN keeps crashing before I can get to any menu. Still I'd like to find out if this may indeed be the issue here. So my question is: does PDN 4.0 use HA by default when it starts up? And if so, is there a way to force PDN to start up without using any kind of hardware acceleration? By commandline option perhaps? Or by changing some registry entry? INI file? Thanks for any helpful idea!