I cheated on that image a little bit. I like to use these two plugins in various orders to "smooth" edges. --AA's_Assistant @ dpy-plugins for this plugin, I usually find basicly the default setting is best for most, but it does eat away at the image. Not recomended for really narrow lines and such, but maybe you can use a thicker line and it will slim it down. --DropShadow @ Vandermotten-plugins I like this one, it can outline, shadow and everything. I usually start off with the settings turned down to 1 low and raise it up as needed. I thought there was a plugin for turning images into a vector or close to it. I'm not sure. Hope this all makes sense. good luck, carry on. Good work on these I really do like them. I always wanted to be good at these sigs.