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[welshblue]

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Your mission if you choose to accept:

Design an album cover for your newly formed band. Must include original artwork, *fictitious band name and an album title.

( *Unless you're in a band and want to promote yourself)

Rules

This particular challenge must be made using only Paint.NET. NO Stock Images

Winners of any subsequent challenges have the right to choose the topic and stipulate whether it is a PDN only challenge.

Entries can be edited up to closing time.

If stock images are allowed, individuals should mindful of copyright laws

As host of any competition - If copyright is breached; it's not my backside on the line ...

One entry per person (unless the challenge is bombing then that will be open to review 3 days before closing date...)

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Closing Date for entries July 21st (10 pm GMT)

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Entries and comments can be posted in this thread.

[nitenurse79]

My Entry. It is as far as I know a "fictitious band"

Edited to remove clipart and now removed custom brushes.

Font on "album title" - Broadway.

Edited by nitenurse79, 11 July 2012 - 08:29 AM.

[doughty]

Nitenurse, but Is clip art not stock images? I don't know myself.

[nitenurse79]

Nitenurse, but Is clip art not stock images? I don't know myself.

Just to play it safe I have replaced the clipart with custom brushes

Edited by nitenurse79, 09 July 2012 - 01:00 PM.

[doughty]

Nitenurse, I don't think it should make a difference how it gets stuck on one's image.
But, I liked your idea and used custom brush also.

EER has convinced me that I needed to make changes to my entry.
Thank you for your input, I really was unsure about what was illegal.

Edited by doughty, 09 July 2012 - 11:45 PM.

[Ego Eram Reputo]

Interesting discussion developing!

To me, "stock image" refers to any image that you did not create yourself from scratch.

This would include clipart, photos (of any kind), fonts (when not used as typed text i.e. symbols and icons), icons and anything downloaded for the purpose.

Your previously created images would be acceptable as components in a new "stockless" creation so long as they too were all original (therefore stockless).

Discuss...

[doughty]

EER, I thought so too, but the use of custom brush made me think, well maybe. And I'm glad you brought up the use of fonts as I have made a few little creatures from a couple of letters so, guess I gotta watch where to use them.
I'll fix my image right now.

[Ego Eram Reputo]

No wait. This is a conversation piece. I'm inviting discussion not doling out new rules.

As for fonts - I'm specifically referring to fonts that contain little clipart characters. Making an image element from ordinary text characters would be Ok in my book e.g. those nice repeating characters that are transformed into jewel surrounds in this neat tutorial by Barbieq25 http://forums.getpai...making-a-jewel/. Perfectly OK.

Not so Ok are these types of font: http://www.dafont.co...eme.php?cat=701 (they call them Dingbats)

[doughty]

EER, sorry I already fixed my image. New Rules? I thought you were stating old rules.
I'm so confused. I'm going to wait for NN to speak her mind on the subject now.

[nitenurse79]

I just assume that something like custom brushes that were downloaded for free useage and the Broadway Font that I used for the album title were payed for by me from larabie font a few years back would be ok. The brushes I used and the decorative font, that is not a dingbat are in my opinion used in a creative way.

Edited by nitenurse79, 10 July 2012 - 08:47 AM.

[Ego Eram Reputo]

See? I knew this was going to be interesting!

I just assume that something like custom brushes that were downloaded for free useage and the Broadway Font that I used for the album title were payed for by me from larabie font a few years back would be ok. The brushes I used and the decorative font, that is not a dingbat are in my opinion used in a creative way.

IMHO:

Custom brushes that are patterns should be allowed. Brushes that are standalone images depicting a recognizable object I have a problem with, unless you created them yourself without use of any other image.

I feel the same with fonts. Stylistic text characters are fine, but fonts comprising images that are not recognizable as text characters I have an issue with. I'd be willing to concede the standard Webdings and Wingdings if the majority of users supported the use of these.

Remember; this is just for STOCKLESS competitions. Any competition that allows stocks just needs the correct attribution (e.g. ambulance image: Webdings font character h).

[ventor1]

I am beginning to regret coming up with this theme taking into account the trouble people are having deciphering between what is and what is not 100%PDN. For what it's worth, I agree with Ego Eram Reputo's last comment.
And on that note, here is mine:



100% PDN & 100% weirdness!

[nitenurse79]

IMHO:

Custom brushes that are patterns should be allowed. Brushes that are standalone images depicting a recognizable object I have a problem with, unless you created them yourself without use of any other image.

Very interesting and a very grey area with what constitutes a created brush. Most custom brushes I have depict a recognizable object (apart from spray style brushes & the like)
I have amended my entry once again, removing the custom brushes "people" IMO it takes away a lot of impact from the previous version, but sadly I don't have any other form of custom brush to use that would fit with the image concept. I hope this time it is Ok

Edited by nitenurse79, 11 July 2012 - 08:42 AM.

[Xzerizon]

Here is my entry. No stocks used:

[Ego Eram Reputo]

I really didn't want anyone to change their entry. I just wished to discuss the definition of "stock image".

Perhaps in some future competition it should be more clearly defined (after much discussion).

[minners71]

Here's mine 100% PDN even the "font"

[barbieq25]

Throwing another thought in: what about when you use an image to create the basis of your work? For example: using a dingbat to create a larger, more clearer image of an element?

[Ego Eram Reputo]

These areas are greyer. I can see you're thinking about this!

I'm of the opinion that if the dingbat was a part of your construction image then it counts. This means copying, enlarging, blurring or otherwise using the dingbat.

If you viewed it as a separate image and mentally (not physically) copied aspects of it then it becomes your own. E.g. inpired by is not the same as created using.

Open to conflicting opinions of course.

[welshblue]

On the subject of competition rules maybe I should have heeded point 1 in the discussion part of the Competition Rules and had a discussion thread. I live and learn

Laziness on my part and I apologise.

Interesting reading.

Stock: When you take an image off t'internet and plonk it on a canvas. Not allowed

Dingbats: Allowed if you build on the original shape.

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[dug]

100% PdN.