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#21 Goonfella

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:11 PM

Thanks for the update Red. Noisechoise is a nice idea but I do get a slight problem when I choose the Primary Colour only option. It renders streaks all down the image , as you can see below. This happens no matter which colour I choose, it`s not just a problem with the black.The other options work fine.



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#22 Red ochre

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:56 PM

Hello Goonfella,
No it shouldn't look like that! - thing is it works fine on mine ? (I'm using Vista with the window transparency turned of though).
- if you look at the code at the bottom of the noisechoice thread - it shows that the code for the primary color option is almost identical to that for the secondary color - which you say is working ok?
Unless I can replicate the problem, it will difficult to work out what is wrong.
from the screenshot you've shown it seems it is on a solid background layer - does anyone else get this problem?
Very strange - if anyone has any ideas please post them. :/
Sorry - at a loss there - but thanks for reporting back.

I am also intrigued because in your screenshot the plugin title is cut short - this doesn't happen with mine? - I wonder if your settings for text size could be a clue?
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#23 delpart

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:57 PM

Hello Goonfella,
No it shouldn't look like that! - thing is it works fine on mine ? (I'm using Vista with the window transparency turned of though).
- if you look at the code at the bottom of the noisechoice thread - it shows that the code for the primary color option is almost identical to that for the secondary color - which you say is working ok?
Unless I can replicate the problem, it will difficult to work out what is wrong.
from the screenshot you've shown it seems it is on a solid background layer - does anyone else get this problem?
Very strange - if anyone has any ideas please post them. :/
Sorry - at a loss there - but thanks for reporting back.


I get it on 800x600 in fast testing just now towards the outer edges both left and right ... Slight, but still distinct enough to see "lines" ... Tried a couple of other sizes but it crashed me at 3000x ... My own fault from the dump on that it seems ... resource issue.

Have to pop out, but it does show up to some degree or another with that setting in my fast tests.

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#24 Red ochre

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:02 PM

Thanks for the feedback Delpart - I'm still at a loss? I can't reproduce it ? - I'll carry on trying but why this should occur just on primary choice stumps me at the moment :/

Ah - just getting some when only small amounts of noise on primary (and on secondary if black selected).
Many thanks both of you for reporting this - I will try and work out whats wrong and fix it or discontinue if I can't.
In the meantime the reseed button should produce a useable distribution.

Well I've added another call to random number and it seems better - could you test this version and report back please - as (particularly Goonfella) you seem to be getting more noticeable problems. Cheers ;)

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:41 AM

Thanks for the feedback Delpart - I'm still at a loss? I can't reproduce it ? - I'll carry on trying but why this should occur just on primary choice stumps me at the moment :/

Ah - just getting some when only small amounts of noise on primary (and on secondary if black selected).
Many thanks both of you for reporting this - I will try and work out whats wrong and fix it or discontinue if I can't.
In the meantime the reseed button should produce a useable distribution.

Well I've added another call to random number and it seems better - could you test this version and report back please - as (particularly Goonfella) you seem to be getting more noticeable problems. Cheers ;)

Attached File  noisechoice.zip   5.69K   168 downloads


Less chance of occurrence with the new build. Even the other noise options can generate some lines. This is the nature of the chaos being used from how they function from what I can decipher from the code. Only way to avoid it is to use something else but it would be a huge overkill as you'd essentially be making fractals on some level.

I pushed and prodded and couldn't get the same regularity as shown by Goon. Plenty of lined up dots with the old one. Far too many occurrences. Seems resolved on my system. EDIT: (I'm more tired than I think. There is some odd stuff still showing up. See below for screen shot of it.) Of note, mine is a Vista platform. Pretty sure Goon is running Windows 7.

Some "lines" showing up ... minor in some ways, but this shows up to one degree or another. Arrows pointing roughly towards the lines not directly on them:

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Settings used. Mainly toned down to show dots in line clearly that I didn't trust my eyes about:

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Side thought: Like with the other noise patterns available, the reseed option can be the solution to starring and other pattern problems that can/will occur on dense settings levels. Slamming the sliders though to make sure it's not there every time is the difference really. Though in some ways the tiling effect Goon got is rather neat.

Edited by delpart, 17 March 2012 - 05:54 AM.

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#26 Goonfella

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:49 AM

Still the same when I use the default 800x600 canvas but if I use a larger one like 1920x1080 (the recommended resolution on the laptop) the problem almost disappears. It is still there but it`s hardly noticeable. The other options for using noise more than make up for this problem though. So I will still keep the plug in.

I don`t know if it will help but I am using Win7 Home Premium on a Dell XPS16 that has an ATI Mobility Radeon HD4670 graphics card.

Oh and to see if it made any difference I changed the size of the text on the screen from medium to small but the text that you pointed out in the plug in is still the same - just smaller. I think I will leave it small though because now I can see all my Distort plug ins without having to scroll!

Edited by Goonfella, 17 March 2012 - 07:07 AM.

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#27 Red ochre

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:34 PM

Thanks for this testing Goonfella and Delpart - very much appreciated :star: :star:,
I will work on this - since it seems the fastest machine seems to have the worst problems I will experiment with trying to slow it down (not too much!) .

What results do you get by using 'primary to secondary' - with both colors set the same?

Thanks again.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:30 PM

Thanks for this testing Goonfella and Delpart - very much appreciated :star: :star:,
I will work on this - since it seems the fastest machine seems to have the worst problems I will experiment with trying to slow it down (not too much!) .

What results do you get by using 'primary to secondary' - with both colors set the same?

Thanks again.


Intel 2.4 gig second gen dual core at 1600 bus speed (800 base dual channel effective rate) to memory for reference point. Bumped into overclock at 3.2 it got worse slightly ... curious.


As to the primary/secondary set the same: significant reduction in pattern occurence. Even trying to push it down in scale ... wait, I forgot to test odd size canvas, ... like 8 to 1 ratio. (post paused) Hrm, inconclusive in some ways. Small square has same problem. But again, the black on black using the primary to secondary seems to be working.


All examples using 144, black primary and secondary full noise color.

Okay at 8 to 1 I can get the results Goon got using primary only (2 examples):

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16 to 1 just because I saved it:

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Small square showing the behavior:

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And of course the primary to secondary showing this resolves the issue more or less:

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#29 Red ochre

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 01:51 AM

Updated 'Noise choice', hopefully the vertical lines when selecting 'primary color' will be less of a problem.
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:43 PM

Just downloaded latest version.I like the way you make your plug-ins,each one with lots of options.Off to play with noisechoice.Thank you so much for all your hard work and for sharing. ;)

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:23 PM

great job, super effects ;)
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#32 Red ochre

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:23 PM

@ dug, thanks for taking the time to say thanks - very impressed by your gallery too.
- It's good to know that people are exploring the drop down lists and settings rather than accepting the default values. ;)

@ krys - hello & welcome - again thanks for saying thanks - very appreciated! ;)
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:21 PM

I've added 'Overblur' and 'recolour choice' to the pack. :smile: .
I'll tidy up the links in the first post when I work out what I'm doing!

9 days later and I've finally worked out how to put the right name on a link!
- It's the little switch icon in the edit window - then edit the html - I'm sure there must be an easier way.
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#34 Red ochre

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:02 PM

Updated the pack, adding a new version of Gradients galore and some others - details in first post.
Enjoy! ;)
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