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Hi Jim NO insult taken :-) and never from some one like you or others here in the forum! I don't agree with what you wrote about the tutorials, I think you made it bigger deal from what it is. and i'll tell you why. 1. we are talking about a very simple change , even a newbie would make the connections look under "favorites" sub-menu, its not like going to long unknown sub sub menus. people can make the small adjustment.. and some time pointing them there would be just as good. 2. I have written many tutorials and guides and manuals in my life time, both software and hardware and others. do you think that I or any one else rewrote all those papers since a new version came out or a new and better way to do something or new instructions from the factory or developers ? well I NEVER did , all that we have done was add a paper in the begining of the paper saying what is new, what are the changes that need to be taken from now, what are the new program tools added , what are the menu changes etc... I can tell you that i Never got any complain back about this. so such a small change of where to look for a plugin should not be beyond the reach of any one and wont be so confusing as you say :-) even if you look thru this forum you would see changes are made all the time and people coop with it :-) and would get the idea after the first time they ask the question here in the forum. This change would make peoples work simple and much faster. No one would push coders to make changes to their plugins "right now" or at all. just like you get some new things in new versions/release of software. New changes takes time to make their way into the main stream ..... Avi

Hi Ego Yes I know this and use it :-) but still its too much keys and if you click one more then needed you must use the mouse or arrows to fix. all this key pressing kind of takes the idea of "fast shortcuts" away :-( why not make it easy for people and narrow the number of multiple/menus and clicks needed to reach your UltraCool Pizza plugin :-) Avi

Hi Ego In which language " FtangFtangOleBiscuitBarrel" = "Favorites" ?? :-) :-) there would be only TWO options to look in under the effect menu. ​ether the normal/regular plugin location OR under Effects -> "Favorites". so your UltraCool plugin can be under the main Effects menu -> Pizza OR under Effects -> "Favorites" -> Pizza. and no other place . Also if a one writes/wrote a tutorial it can add at the top a remark that that if you installed the regular plugin use the normal menu and if you installed the "Favorites" version the plugin would under the "Favorites" sub menu. no need to make so many changes in the tutorials. I also think (as SAND33P) that there are people that don't know how to "code" so it should be up to the original coder if its a non public code to add that "Favorites" option. and if its an open code, then the 1st person who adds the "Favorites" to the public code would also add a link to it . Its not a big deal and it would help many of the users here. Avi

Hi bolt Nice idea, i never thought of recompiling/changing the plugin code. However I do want to take your idea a step forward , and maybe have a new standard added to plugin coders and have then add a 2nd version of their plugin (only if they want) that would be under a sub menu called "favorites". this way people who use their plugin allot would be able to install the 2nd version that goes under the "favorites" sub menu, and all others can use the regular version under the plugin menu. I'm going to implement this and have two versions in the plugin i'm currently working on. I think this would solve this issue where all sides are winners :-) what do you think ? Avi

Hi SAND33P / BoltBait I too think that such "Favorites" sub menu should be a part of the main effects menu even on the top. I know we already had a desiccation about this subject few months ago, I asked for this feature also. (i can't find that topic ? ) this is not a problem of too much plugins installed, but more of an easy way to get to your Favorite plugin faster then search for it on the menu. like the plugins you use most would be there. Rick and Ego provided the keyboard short cut keys as an answer, which does not work all the time since there are many plugins with the same start letter. :-( also the menu location is coded into the plugin and Rick (i think it was him) said that it would need to add code to support it from elsewhere (if at all) and he is currently working on 4.0 and would deal with plugins in 4.x . I can also add an out of the box idea that might make it , with Rick ;-) (i guess 4.x) sort the plugin menu items , via their last usage. meaning that the more we use a plugin effect, the closer it would be to the top of the effects menu. saving us the time to search for it all the time. what do you think ? Avi

Hi selections is not the way to do what i do, also mostly because the selection tool makes selection lines (like ants) and it makes it hard work with in small places and delicate traces. also why use the selection if the free form tool already does it better filling the area as i go ? I think this tool is good and should be left in the Paint.Net tools arsenal :-) Avi

HI minners71 I'm on a tight timeline to finish a project, so I don't have much time to search for an example I have somewhere. so I ask your forgiveness. I can give you general idea of when i use it. 1st of all I use it in "filled shape mode" and when I need to fill or create an outside/inside template/mask of a shape/area in an image with irregular shape and get into the small "cracks" and around other objects with ease., using this with a little planning automatically fills the shape with the foreground color. this save me the time to fill that shape using fill bucket that does not help or using the other shapes/brushes to fit the irregular shape i need. its kind of hard to explain since it's per image and shape complexity in the image. also I use the lasso selection tool in the same way to get an accurate selection of the irregular shape if needed. again the main use is with the fill option selected and not just to "trace" with a regular line. one more place i use it when I work with the pen tablet , to trace a shape/image out of a paper placed on the tablet. Avi

Hi Yes it is an amazing picture Bolt :-) I used to do pictures like this few years ago. (but they were NOT as good and "out of the thinking box" like this one! ) however I always used a stand and markings to place the camera in the same spot every time. Avi p.s. now days a friend of mine uses HD webcam with cellular network and software to take pictures at intervals from minutes to weeks.

Hi minners71 I'm sure that everyone has his own opinion about everything ;-) and we all use the tools in a way which is good for us learning more uses from others or experiences as we go forward. I'm using alphamasking too but there are differences in what you can do with each tool. For my some/kind/type of work I do, the freeform tool works best. and for other kind of images/work other tools/plugins work better. I hope that Rick would keep it :-) Avi

Hi Rick I use it many times when I work on images that i need to trace and they have strange/irregular shapes. or when i need to create a mask area around something or fill an area that needs delicate touches . its a good tool saves the need to use the "lasso selection" then fill. it gives online view of the area you work on. Please keep it 10Q. Avi p.s. From what it looks , I'm one of the few who uses it, but I can say that after you know how and when to use it, you would think how you did things without it ;-) p.s.2 Working with image manipulations, makes this tool very useful.

Hi You can do what my friend did. He moved from XP to OSX , so he used a software called VirtualBox which is free he installed it on his OSX and made a virtual machine out of his old XP harddrive. Now he has a faster XP and he continues to run Paint.Net on the virtual XP machine. if you don't have a windows machine., you can install one from a CD directly to virtual box https://www.virtualbox.org/ Avi . p.s. it works great and when using full screen you have a d@@m fast XP on the new OSX :-)

Hi Rick Don't "Dock" your great Paint.Net ship, keep sailing forward , there are many of us that provide you with the wind power needed to push your new ship forward! :-) No time to dock now, full steam ahead. Avi

Hi One more thing think about is the paper you are using, it must be one that would allow two sided image printing. Images (unlike regular color text) produce/use allot more of ink that is soaked by the paper. if the wrong paper is used and the print is not dry then you would get a mess both in the images and in the paper. In my case it once even caused the paper to tare and jam in my HP printer. Avi

Hello meows Welcome to the forum. to answer your question , you can try this plugin http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/20976-fill-from-clipboard/ Avi

I 2nd that too "globe thingy" sounds much better :-) Avi