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No, the removal of Hydravision 100% corrected the issue. Thanks for the quick follow up.

Also, I specifically removed Hydravision (as was mentioned in other posts, I assume that was being hinted at by Rick Brewster) from the AMD Catalyst Control Center (I didn't touch NVIDIA settings at all) and the Tools,History, Colors & Layers box all open in the location they were last in when the program was closed again.

Actually neither of the quotes you removed from their context were being debated, but thanks for reaching out. Every single time a vehicle has hit a deer over the years there was always a third party life form involved, but automotive engineers still designed better headlights, more effective brakes and collision avoidance systems. It makes no difference to me if the developer(s) keep(s) up, someone else will always be ready to take over with a better product. I understand though, it can be hard to keep up these days!

Sorry about the duplicate post, that should have been an edit to add the last sentence only.

I use Hydravision and NVIDIA DM on a 4 monitor setup. Has been working for over a year in the current configuration. Anyone have any working solutions? I don't think it's unreasonable to say many people use a multi-monitor setup and considering the two I am using are likely two of the most common multi monitor managers. No unexplained issues with any other app so it doesn't seem accurate to say that NVIDIA and ATI are "causing" the problem, it would seem that the developer(s) isn't/aren't taking something into consideration in the code. The History, Colours & Layers boxes all start exactly in the same position as you put them before you close the application, something clearly is not consistent with the Tools box.

I assume there is something obvious I am missing. Each time I start, the Tools toolbar opens fullscreen over the program window: - have tried resetting the toolbar ctrl-shift-click & ctrl-shift-f5 . . . no change - have tried exiting the program with X . . . no change - have tried exiting via File menu while holding down ctrl, and alt and combination of both . . . no change - have tried an uninstall, reboot, re-install . . . no change Visual example: http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cD6ZqijEom diagnostic.txt